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FY 2017 Budget: Navy Wants to Modernize Last 7 Cruisers Instead of Following 2/4/6 Directive from Congress

The Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Vicksburg (CG 69) transits the Strait of Gibraltar on March 31, 2015, as part of the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group. US Navy photo.

The Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Vicksburg (CG 69) transits the Strait of Gibraltar on March 31, 2015, as part of the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group. US Navy photo.

The Navy revived its cruiser phased modernization plan in the Fiscal Year 2017 budget request, asking Congress to let the sea service put the remaining seven un-modernized ships into maintenance now instead of following Congress’s two-a-year directive.

This request would save $3 billion in operating costs but would also set up a battle with Congress, which has come down against sidelining the cruisers in bulk. Lawmakers have also said the Navy cannot take its ballistic missile defense-capable cruisers out of service for modernization without having a BMD-capable replacement ready– and four of the Navy’s five BMD-capable cruisers are still awaiting modernization.

Ahead of going to Congress to testify on the budget request and the newest instantiation of the phased modernization plan, Rear Adm. William Lescher, deputy assistant secretary of the Navy for budget, told reporters in a Tuesday afternoon briefing that the phased modernization brings more good than harm.

“The balance between current and future capability that fits within our budget compels the Navy in this request to propose to Congress inducting the seven remaining cruisers into phased modernization in FY ’17,” he said during his briefing.
“This is an approach that leverages savings of $3 billion over the [five-year Future Years Defense Program] in operating costs to provide the best overall force balance that maintains air defense commander-capable platforms in the force into the 2040s, that allows us to reallocate personnel elsewhere in the fleet.

“This is the best way to update our cruisers relative to the evolving threat within the resources we have available,” he continued.
“We’re choosing to retain a more capable future cruiser fleet longer into the future over lesser capacity today. The department has committed more than $500 million in the FYDP to ensure the return of these cruisers to the fleet to meet our future air defense commander requirements.”

In an effort to insert the newest warfighting technology into the 33-year-old ship class, the Navy has already put the latest Aegis Combat System capabilities on the oldest 11 of the 22 cruisers – those ships had already undergone modernization work, where the old computers were ripped out and new open architecture systems were put in, enabling the Navy to update the server blades and software with relative ease.

As for the younger 11, the Navy in 2014 asked to keep the older 11 in the fleet and put the younger 11 in reduced operating status, preserving what’s left of their 35-year service life and modernizing them just in time to serve as one-for-one replacements as the older cruisers decommissioned. That plan, the original request for a phased modernization plan, was rejected by lawmakers.

Congress eventually came up with a 2/4/6 plan – two cruisers a year would enter a modernization period that could last no longer than four years, with no more than six cruisers in the yard for modernization at any given time. Though the Navy insisted this plan would drain service life from the cruiser fleet faster – with the last ship decommissioning in 2038 instead of in the early 2040s under their layup plan – the Navy began implementing it. USS Cowpens (CG-63) and USS Gettysburg (USS-64) went into modernization periods in FY 2015, and USS Vicksburg (CG-69) and USS Chosin (CG-65) will begin their modernizations this summer with FY 2016 funding.

That leaves seven cruisers with pending modernization work – and the Navy wants to induct them all into modernization now.

“The 2/4/6 plan, that was the prior plan that was being executed, would have brought in two more cruisers in FY ’17. This plan basically brings in those two, plus an additional five,” Lescher explained during a question and answer session.
“By doing that, it provides some flexibility … and that’s advantageous because it helps us level-load the industrial base and address, as there’s peaks and dips in the repair industrial base, these ships can be essentially adjusted to come into that period.

“The long-term plan in fact would have them continue to have as a one-for-one replacement as the oldest 11 cruisers were retired, one of these phased modernization cruisers would then come out,” he said, a feature that mirrors the original phased modernization plan and drew the ire of many lawmakers, who didn’t trust the Navy to follow through with bringing the ships back several years down the road.
“The department leadership has spoken very clearly about the commitment to bringing these cruisers back into the fleet. We have this important requirement for air defense commander-capable platforms, one per carrier strike group into the 2040s, so the evidence of that commitment is the $500 million that are invested in this budget to make the FY ’17 plan work. And as part of the legislative proposal as well the department is proposing essentially increased congressional oversight that would be applicable for any changes to the status of these cruisers in terms of inactivation.”

The Navy is still likely to run into pushback from Congress. Lawmakers made clear in hearings last year that they didn’t trust Navy leadership to bring the ships back into the fleet once they were taken out of service, particularly in bulk quantities. And lawmakers have also said that ballistic missile defense-capable cruisers cannot be taken out of operations for modernization work until another BMD-capable ship is ready to replace it, according to director of surface warfare Rear Adm. Peter Fanta.

USS Port Royal (CG-73) departs Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam in 2012. US Navy Photo

USS Port Royal (CG-73) departs Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam in 2012. US Navy Photo

Fanta spoke about the cruiser modernization effort last month at the annual Surface Navy Association national symposium. Addressing criticism that the Navy doesn’t know what it’s doing with the fleet, Fanta said “those first 11 cruisers, those oldest cruisers – while everybody else has been wailing and gnashing their teeth about what we do with using the money Congress gave us … we’ve upgraded 10 of the first 11 cruisers, or we will by the end of next year. Remember a few years ago when we changed those cruisers from standard Navy computer systems to open architecture, commercial-off-the-shelf? Well it allowed us now to work with industry to change out blade servers in those first 10 cruisers and make them the highest capability Aegis ships we have out there. It allowed us to take that technology and leap forward and now counter supersonic ballistic missiles, increased capabilities, subsonic stream raids, and everything else. It allowed us to shoot at range, it allows us to shoot over the horizon, it allows us to do everything else. Why? Because we used that open architecture, and while everybody else was watching the bright shiny object over here we just went and updated those cruisers.

“Okay, that’s 10,” he continued. “We’re taking … four total into modernization by the end of this year – they will get the same combat system upgrade and we will do all the engineering to make sure they work for a long time. That’s 14. Now, we have five ballistic missile cruisers out there, we are under statute to keep those going and not replace them until we get another BMD cruiser – okay, that’s five more, that’s 19 of the 22 cruisers, and people say we don’t know what we’re doing with the cruisers. Let me see, that’s 19 of 22. Yeah, we’re working the last couple. Cruisers are getting updated.”

Among the 11 cruisers awaiting modernization are four that are BMD-capable— USS Shiloh (CG-67), USS Lake Erie (CG-70), USS Vella Gulf (CG-72) and USS Port Royal (CG-73), according to a December 2015 Congressional Research Service report.

USS Bunker Hill (CG-52), the oldest of the remaining cruisers, commissioned 30 years ago and is expected to decommission in 2020, according to the FY 2016 30-Year Shipbuilding Plan. USS Cowpens (CG-63), the oldest within that younger half of the cruiser fleet, commissioned 25 years ago. The rapidity with which the cruisers were built may soon cause a dilemma. The Navy will see them all go out of service within a short span of time – though the Navy’s plan to lay up 11 until the first cruisers retired would have alleviated this problem to a degree – and the Navy has not yet identified how to replace the cruisers. A CG(X) cruiser replacement program was canceled in 2010, and the Navy is working through a new future surface combatant study that seeks to identify a family of systems solution to future large and small surface combatant needs.

  • LewCypher

    “lawmakers have also said that ballistic missile defense-capable cruisers cannot be taken out of operations for modernization work until another BMD-capable ship is ready to replace it”
    Does Congress know there are BMD capable DDG’s?

    • disqus_zommBwspv9

      tunnel vision, they keep forgetting the Burkes, which has appear to have become the only bright spot of the Surface Fleet. Not counting the amphibs. Dump the Tico’s and build another 40 Burkes

      • Marjus

        Even leaving out the technical aspect of it, the DDGs do not have the same size or level of staff experience as the Ticos, which are command level ships, especially in the Air Defense role. Furthermore Cruisers are critical as they sail shotgun with the Carriers, the Navy originally only wanted to keep 11, one for each CVN, but that leaves ZERO margin for error or excess capacity for any role other than carrier escort.

        • disqus_zommBwspv9

          The carriers have a flag bridge. Flag plot etc. let’s put 60 SM 6 in VSL on the Carriers

          • Secundius

            How do you plan to do it? Use Portable Pallet Launchers like the Mk. 141’s, and if so. How many Aircraft are you planning to “Weed Out” for the Storage Space NEEDED to Store the Launchers…

          • disqus_zommBwspv9

            the Nimitz Class Carriers used to deploy with 80 to 90 Aircraft. They also know that it can hold over a hundred FA-18’s with a couple of Hummers. (E2-C) Now a days the usual Air Wing is less than 70. If they Navy does not want to deploy Full Airwings that is too bad. Plus a Nimitz class Carrier should have at least 6 CIWS and 6 AAW Point defense missile systems. Anyone remember when the Forrestal and Sara had Eight 5′ 38″ in four sponsors?? .

          • Secundius

            Sorry it took so long to get back to you! But I Had to Some Digging to Get Answers. Never ask a computer a Direct Question, You’ll NEVER get back a Straight Answer. Two Possible Systems. First, Patent US #20120152092 A1, SETL – Self Elevating Trainable Launcher. A Four-N-One Vertical Launcher System. Second, And “Curtis Conway” probably knows this one. But a Variation of the Original Design (the Mk. 7 “Okie City” Missile House). Instead of Horizontally Storage System of Three Compartments of 16-missiles each. A Vertical Storage Launching System of Three Compartments of 25-missiles each. Problem is Weight, At A Minimum you’re looking at about 100-tons of Each Missile House. Not Including the Support Structure to Support It. Wild Guess, ~300-tons.

            Oh, by the way. BOTH the 3-inch Mk. 75 and 5-inch Mk. 45 Naval Artillery Gun Mounts, can be mounted on the LCS-FF class Ships…

  • Curtis Conway

    The US Navy just refuses to follow orders.

    • @USS_Fallujah

      Between the CGs and LCS I think McCain might kill someone at the next SASC hearing.

      • Secundius

        That’s ONLY If He “ACTUALLY” Bothers Showing Up-To-One, Instead of “PANDERING” to the Nearest News Crew…

  • @USS_Fallujah

    I think this CG plan is DOA, congress clearly doesn’t trust the Navy on this, better for USN to wait till they can get the first 2 modernized CGs back into the fleet and then put the remaining CGs in the deactivated modernization cue. At least then they’ve show the plan has a basis in reality, though it won’t save nearly as much money (but I’m sure congress will easily agree to cut a LCS or two to make ends meet).

  • disqus_zommBwspv9

    Remember when the Nimitz Aircraft Carriers carried 80 aircraft 7 – 8 escorts (not counting SSN’s) So if necessary a pair of escorts could be chop out to support the Gators, independent operations. Going back to the sixty’s when aircraft carriers CV-59 & 60 also carry Eight 5’38”?? maybe the need to weld or enlarge the existing sponsons so a CIWS and RAM can be paired in sets of 2 x 4. Plus find places for a dozen 25mm. . When CV-2 and 3 were launch they had eight 8 inch guns and numberous Chicago pianos (later change to 5′ guns & numberous 40mm & 20mm ) Carriers are just big sitting targets without enough escorts. If a sea battle would happen today. the Carrier and Cruisers would be targets number one and two. Then the supply ships. We are done in less than 10 minutes. The remaining escorts can go home at best economical speed. if they don’t get sunk first by 1980’s diesel submarines. Tactics are easy, logistics and shipbuilding are not.

    • Secundius

      CV-59 and CV-60 mounted Mk.42 5-inch/54-caliber guns, NOT Mk. 30 5-inch/38-caliber guns…

  • postal67

    2/9/2016 and no comments! I can’t let that happen.. Since most of congress never has to fight the damn wars, why are they getting to say what gets and upgrade and WHEN? Does it always have to be December 8th 1941 in this country. WTC was Sixteen years after the first attack.. When will we learn.. A good Defense is better than stopping to pick up the bodies and then go to war..

    • mousekiller

      It is a matter of dollars. If money is spent on rebuilding the ships that means less for them to milk for themselves.