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Navy Ohio Replacement Sub Class to Be Named for D.C.

An undated artist's rendering of the Ohio Replacement. Naval Sea Systems Command Image

An undated artist’s rendering of the Ohio Replacement. Naval Sea Systems Command Image

The Navy’s new planned class of ballistic missile submarines will be named in honor of the District of Columbia, two Navy officials confirmed to USNI News on Thursday.

According to a notification memo to Congress obtained by USNI News, the first ship in the next planned class of Navy nuclear ballistic missile submarines (SSBN(X))– also known as the Ohio replacement program — will be named USS Columbia.

Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus’ office is not releasing further information until the naming announcement, one Navy official told USNI News.

While the name Columbia for a U.S. ships and aircraft is not new – at least eight U.S. ships, a Space Shuttle and the Apollo 11 command module have all shared the name – it will be the first time the name has been used to commemorate the U.S. capital, the sources told USNI News.

The fleet’s current USS Columbia (SSN-771) – a Los Angeles attack submarine – is named in honor of Columbia, S.C., Columbia, Ill and Columbia, Mo. The submarine is expected to decommission before the first SSBN(X) enters service.

Columbia

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Other ships in the fleet were named after the romantic female personification of the Americas – Columbia.

The Columbia-class is set to replace the current crop of 14 Ohio-class boomers starting with the first acquisition of Columbia in Fiscal Year 2021.

“The Navy’s proposed FY2017 budget requests $773.1 million in advance procurement (AP) funding and $1,091.1 million in research and development funding for the Ohio replacement program,” according to a May Congressional Research Service report.

The new boomers will feature a new life-of-boat reactor, an electric drive and field 16 Trident II D5 ballistic nuclear missiles as one leg of the U.S. strategic nuclear deterrent triad.

Ohio-AttributesIn March, the Navy announced that General Dynamics Electric Boat would be the prime contractor for the class.

According to early estimates, the 12 boat class will cost the Navy about $100 billion and is the service’s number one acquisition priority, a claim Navy leadership has repeated often.

  • bobbymike34

    Overall all boats should be of the “Neptune Class”

    • Stephen

      Weren’t they supply ships? We need to go back & honor each class with the historic names. We will lose the Gatos, Sturgeons, Permits, etc. Capital ships, States & Presidents…

  • PROUD_TEXAN

    Hail the bureaucrats.

    • Sons of Liberty

      It’s not the bureaucrats it’s the politician Mabus. Time for him to go and hopefully we can get a SecNav that actually cares about warfighting.

    • alfie0077

      A third of the bureaucrats call themselves r, or d. However they are Catolic traitors. TX is in real danger.
      Muslims destroy their nation then move on to the next, bringing the failed religion, failed culture, failed education and failed everything else. Then
      they demand that the AMERICANS bow down and ‘respect’ them and their failure.
      Catholics destroy their nation then move on to the next,
      bringing the failed religion, failed culture, failed education and
      failed everything else. Then they demand that the AMERICANS bow down and ‘respect’ them and their failure.

      The only difference between Muslim and Catholic is the
      continent they destroy.
      Muslims will never be AMERICANS. They are MUSLIMS.
      Catholics will never be AMERICANS. They are CATHOLICS.
      Both want to kill you.
      Hillary has been in bed with the Catholics for 40 years.
      Vote for ANY Catholic and the borders will never be secured.
      Vote accordingly and do not vote for anyone that wants to
      kill you.

      • Terry Ruddy

        Wow, well stated policy discussion on boomers. Any chance you know something about boats relevant to this topic?

  • While Royal Navy boats get more aggressive names like Victorious

  • CatHammer

    Is there now a drive to name ships after the LEAST worthy person/place they can think of?

    • Stephen Raymer

      We don’t have the U.S.S. Obama yet.

      • Bull7822005

        The USS Harvey Milk is almost as good, you think?

        • FredC1968

          Milk did serve in the Navy. This is unlike the vast majority of today’s politicians.

          • Philbert McNutt

            Well, yeah. The Navy. Makes perfect sense.

      • doodaa

        It will be a money sucking lie.

      • John B. Morgen

        A fitting name for a transport or a supply ship….

      • Sm112672

        Thank god for that .

      • Sean T Gallagher 3/7

        a president that did more for the navy and its equipment than any 2 of the last ..so blow it out your porthole

      • Tbear

        This w/b a good name for a marina pump-out boat!!!!

      • MacBobT

        If we did, it would be at the bottom of the ocean by now. LOL…

    • Milly Vanilly

      Just ANOTHER ploy by Obama to denigrate the Military, another slap in the face in PLAIN SITE while SPENDING us DEEPER into DEBT that can NEVER be repaid. Scam, Fraud. TREASON & NOTHING is done.

      • Terry Ruddy

        BENGHAZI!!! Oh wait, wrong one sorry.

  • disqus_89uuCprLIv

    Good name. Leaves the use of USS District available….

  • Donathan Wynne

    It can be worst.

  • Ken N

    Don’t understand why the Ohio replacement is slightly larger then the Ohio SSBM but has 8 less missile tubes?

    • @USS_Fallujah

      24 vs 16 tubes is irrelevant to the deterrence factor, and reduces cost. The size increase also helps with quieting and assures the space needed for a full life cycle reactor.

      • Sons of Liberty

        24 vs 16 is to better comply with treaty obligations. Cost for the VLS is minimal in a boat of this coast. Frankly we should add 4 to 6 boats with 24 tubes and outfit them as missle boat replacements. Then it would make sense to have the propulsor.

    • Ken N

      I understand why we are going to 16 tubes but I thought the size of the sub would go down too. Losing 8 tubes free’s up a large amount of real estate on the sub..yet the OHIO replacement will actually be slightly larger. Just wondering why they still need that space..

      • The Plague

        That’s a really good question, in fact.

  • @USS_Fallujah

    I’ve been a huge critic of Maybus ship namings in the past, but his get a big Meh from me. I’m sure this is meant to be a passive aggressive DC Statehood dig, but who cares. Fine name for a boat.

    • Stephen

      I’m sorry, a ten-mile square state? I guess if you added the adjoining MD & VA counties might make it more reasonable…

    • Sons of Liberty

      Just return DC to Va and Md who it rightfully belongs too.

      • Beomoose

        The Virginia and Maryland legislatures donated the land to create the Federal District, in return for the Federal Government paying back their war debts. The Virginia portion of the District returned to Virginia 145 years ago.

        • mecengdvr

          It wasn’t “returned”…. it was taken back during the civil war.

          • Beomoose

            Retrocession to Virginia of the district land south of the Potomac occurred in September of 1846. The American Civil War began in April of 1861. And territorial changes of that type were not part of that conflict’s outcome.

          • mecengdvr

            I stand corrected. I have some more reading to do apparently.

      • @USS_Fallujah

        They already gave the 1/3rd of DC that was south of the Potomac back to Virginia, it’s now Arlington County. As for the Northern half…I love the idea, but Maryland wants nothing to do with DC.

      • alfie0077

        VA took back its chunk of DC…. Look at a current map of DC… it used to be a diamond. Now, the thing has a funny squiggle on the south that is Arlington VA, not Arlington DC!

  • Donald Carey

    Why try to optimize a boomer for shallow water operations? Adding a water jet propulsor for shallow water operations seems to me a waste of money – subs that size are very vulnerable in shallow water.

    • Price

      Its more centered around surface operations when clearing the oxygen scrubbers or receiving order so that it isn’t found.

  • Dygene

    Please find a different name as there is no honor in D.C.!

    • johnbull

      Good names like Freedom and Independence go to LCS, and we name a boomer after bureaucrats. Well at least the third of the Ford class has a worthy name- Enterprise.

  • Rick Slater

    Is there ANY rhyme or reason to naming U.S. Navy ships any more??

    • Kris Langley

      Whichever way the wind is felt on an upheld, damp, finger 🙂

  • John B. Morgen

    The submarine’s name is too passive, and [NOT] provoking any fear upon thy enemies. Warships of this category must be given ominous names to instill fear such as Warlord, Hydria or Leviathan, etc.

    • Rick Lewis

      Perhaps we should name our ballistic missile subs after gods of death and/or the underworld such as Hades, Kali, Osiris, Cerberus, Azrael, Erlik, Yama, Banshee, Xolotl, and Chernobog. Benefits of this method (including names from every part of the world) we underscore the worldwide reach of the Navy, as well as the worldwide effect of the weapons.

      • John B. Morgen

        A good idea to instill ominous fear to other nation-states which will lead to deterrence.

        • Curtis Conway

          Which is supposed to be its only mission.

          • John B. Morgen

            Yes! Total nuclear deterrence, and nothing else from the primary mission of nuclear destruction of the enemy.

    • mecengdvr

      I think the arsenal of nuclear tipped ballistic missiles each ship carries will do far more to provoke fear than a name ever will. These ship go out to sea and are never seen by the enemy….why would they care what its name was? The deterrence is from knowing that they are there….not what silly name you give them (especially considering the fact what sounds ominous in our language will not necessarily have any impact in another language).

      • John B. Morgen

        I have to disagreed because many world navies would have the knowledge of said names by owning copies of Janes’ Fighting Ships yearly annuals, or other naval references on hand; plus, these navies would have their intelligence departments be quite bewared of such SSBNs’ names.

        • mecengdvr

          Yeah…I can see it now…. “Look, the US just launched a new class of ballistic missile submarine capable of launching 128 Multiple Independently Targetable re-entry Vehicles that each carry a 475kiloton warhead from anywhere in the world completely undetected….never mind….the ship has a silly name so we probably don’t need to worry about it.”

          If someone pointed a gun at your head, would you really care what name
          the owner gave to his gun.

          • John B. Morgen

            Think whatever you want because it makes no difference, the world already knows what the United States is up to. We make it quite know in public to the world what we are building, and what names are given to the new SSBNs..

          • alfie0077

            Yeah, for the past 7 years the subs have been asleep, and in the meantime, Bomma the Muslim traitor sent several billion in ransom to the Iranians.
            Oh yeah, Kerry, the Catholic traitor was really proud of signing and letting Iran have nukes themselves.

          • John B. Morgen

            You are getting off topic……

          • alfie0077

            If you have a tool, let it rust in the toolbox and tell folks you will not use the tool, the tool is worthless. No need for the tool.

          • John B. Morgen

            I can say about the same thing about some insurance policies, or needless documents or even some laws…..

          • Terry Ruddy

            Absolutely sir, and as for the earlier post there is probably even more to be said about tools.

    • Barb

      United States subs rarely get threatening names and I personally wish the Navy would follow tradition and give subs names like previous WWI and WWII subs.

      • John B. Morgen

        Return to naming submarines after fishes, I’m okay with that idea.

        • FredC1968

          “Fish don’t vote!” -Admiral Hyman G. Rickover

          • John B. Morgen

            Good o’d Admiral Rickover and with his wonderful wisdom of words.

  • Stephen

    Electric-drive is long overdue for the fleet ballistic missile subs. We never needed the speed. Stealth was always the priority.

  • Sons of Liberty

    Why not just remain it the USS Politician. Could there be a worse self absorbed political name. I think Mabus has been in politics way to long and is why his home state threw him out of the Governors office. He is out of touch the boat is paid for by the nation and supported by the nation it’s just the DC plutocrats that control the nations purse strings.

    • Robert Stout

      Because then it’d be too expensive, wouldn’t get anything done, and we’d never be able to replace it.

    • Bull7822005

      USS MoveOn?
      USS BLM maybe?

    • mecengdvr

      You do realize that there are actual citizens who live in DC who live normal (non-political) lives including a very high veteran population….Whereas most of the politicians live in Maryland and VA when congress is in session.
      Not to mention, DC is the capital of this great nation…and while you seem to associate it with everything you hate, to many, it represents the courage and sacrifice shown by our founding fathers and many who followed that it took to forge this great nation. I love this country and I’m tired of people like you constantly $h1ting on it.

      • Sons of Liberty

        I do and I lived there for several years first in Northwest then bought a place on 14th and church when it was first beginning to turn around right before the whole foods went in.

        It’s a transitiant city mainly full of people who come for temporary assignment or when they are young to work in government and then suckle at the titof the tax payer for the rest of their careers once they established their resume.

        As for those that live there they are not the reason Mabus is pushing the name of the new boomers and given that the rest of the nation are the ones that create the GDP that produce the 3.6 Trillion in federal taxes that DC needs to survive it’s a slap in their face.

        If you left those with no connection to government revenues DC would be smaller than Frederick Md or Hagerstown MD. Two other mid Atlantic city with a fairly large retired military population. Though from my experience most retired military don’t live in DC much like the politicians you cite live in VA and Md.

      • alfie0077

        If you do not like treason, consider this.
        Muslims destroy their nation then move on to the next, bringing the failed religion, failed culture, failed education and failed everything else. Then they demand that the AMERICANS bow down and ‘respect’ them and their failure.

        Catholics destroy their nation then move on to the next,
        bringing the failed religion, failed culture, failed education and
        failed everything else. Then they demand that the AMERICANS bow down and ‘respect’ them and their failure.

        The only difference between Muslim and Catholic is the
        continent they destroy.
        Muslims will never be AMERICANS. They are MUSLIMS.
        Catholics will never be AMERICANS. They are CATHOLICS.
        Both want to kill you.

        A third of all elected now are Catholic traitors. Half call themselves r, half d.

        Vote accordingly and do not vote for anyone that wants to
        kill you.

        • mecengdvr

          I think your tinfoil hat is on a little tight.

  • Mike Mike Scott

    This is a mistake. Washington, DC has been no friend of the Navy for a long time.

  • omegatalon

    Of course this would mean the District of Columbia would now file a lawsuit against the US DoD for a licensing fee for using DC as well as royalties by all publications (digital and print) as well as companies that build replicas of submarines with the DC as part of it’s name.

  • lee595t

    I like the name USS, Tigger fish

  • FredC1968

    Why aren’t submarines still named after aquatic creatures. Like Growler, Skipjack, or Nautilus? This pisses me off more than naming Aircraft Carriers after Politicians. Military brass are basically politicians.

    • David C Winyard Sr

      As Rickover said, “Fish don’t vote.”

    • Terry Ruddy

      I always like Gato class, maybe its not political enough?

  • 02144pomroy

    Ray Mabus et al. have lost their minds. Let me quote Caesar Chavez, “The worst two years of my life was the two years I spent in the Navy.” CatHammer is right on.

  • Ironbar66

    So the new sub will be a fat, bloated, tube of hot air that never gets anything done in spite of being on all the time?

  • doodaa

    If we spent half the money making people comfortable as we do to kill each other?

  • Arctic_Fox

    I like the name… Recalls that classic song of Americana of old… “Columbia, the gem of the ocean…”

  • JR Quarrels

    As far as names go none of the 41 for freedom would have struck fear in the enemy. I served on the USS James K Polk SSBN645. The nature of the ship is what strikes fear!

  • SloopJohnB

    It’s also a nuclear industrial base issue. If you don’t do a new sub or carrier design with a new reactor, you lose the design capability and the supplier base. It would probably take 5-7 years to reconstitute that design and supplier capability once it is lost.

  • old guy

    No good reason to replace the OHIO class. A full, stem-to-stern refurbish, new power train and new sensors would more than suffice to keep them operational and effective for 30 more years and at a fraction of the cost. Submarines hulls degrade much less than surface ships This is actually just another non-competitive, SWIPE (Shipyard Welfare Injection Program, Expensive), for GD Electric Boat.

  • David Potts

    Would it not more appropriately be the “USS DIstrict of Columbia”? So as not to be confused with the Space Shuttle tragedy. Or could we name follow on Boats “Challenger”, “Titanic”, “Hindenburg”, …Perhaps even the “USS Richard Petty”, or the more politically correct “USS Amelia Earhart”. The possibilities are endless….