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A Hundred Years Dry: The U.S. Navy’s End of Alcohol at Sea

Sailors on USS Normandy enjoy a rare beer. With limited exceptions, ships in the US Navy have had no alcohol for a hundred years. US Naval Institute Archives

Sailors on USS Normandy enjoy a rare beer. With limited exceptions, ships in the US Navy have had no alcohol for a hundred years. US Naval Institute Archives

As a flotilla of naval vessels from around the world participates in the Rim of the Pacific Exercise (RIMPAC) to sustain relationships in the maritime community, a century ago this week international navies converged for a remarkably different occasion—to drink the last of the U.S. Navy’s supply of alcohol. On July 1, 1914 the ships of the U.S. Navy officially became dry under General Order No. 99. “The use or introduction for drinking purposes of alcoholic liquors on board any naval vessel, or within any navy yard or station, is strictly prohibited, and commanding officers will be held directly responsible for the enforcement of this order,” reads the hundred year-old order. Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels issued the order. A teetotaler, former newspaper publisher, and supporter of the temperance movement, the North Carolinian had already become unpopular with many of those in the sea services. When the order was first announced in on April 16, 1914, it was met with derision and mockery in the press, which regarded the policy as an attempt to make the Navy softer.

Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels

Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels

Editorial cartoons dubbed Daniels “Sir Josephus, Admiral of the USS Grapejuice Pinafore” who oversaw a fleet of Navy ships with names such as “USS Piffle” that were bedecked with flowers, rocking chairs and potted plants. But Daniels’ order was actually just the final phase of a long process that had been slowly reducing the presence of alcohol on Navy ships.

Made in England

Inheriting Britain’s Royal Navy tradition of providing sailors with a daily ration of rum in the 18th century, the U.S. Navy established in 1794 that sailors were to receive “one half-pint of distilled spirits” a day. In 1806, the Navy encouraged the sailors to accept whiskey as a substitute for the more expensive rum. Sailors who did not wish to imbibe or were under age were paid an extra three to six cents a day. The ration was reduced to one gill (four ounces) in 1842 and totally eliminated 1862 during the Civil War—though the Confederate Navy continued to provide crews with rum rations, believing that the tradition would help recruit much-needed experienced sailors from other nations.

Sailors drinking coffee. US Navy Photo

Sailors drinking coffee. US Navy Photo

U.S. Navy sailors were allowed to keep their own stock of beers and undistilled spirits at the discretion of their commander until 1899, when even the sale of alcohol was banned to “enlisted men, either on board ship, or within the limits of navy yards, naval stations, or marine barracks, except in the medical department.” By the time General Order No. 99 was announced, the only alcohol left in U.S. Navy ships was reserved for the wardroom and the captain’s wine messes. As the deadline approached, many of the ships of the Atlantic Fleet were in Mexican ports, part of the occupation of Veracruz.

The Last Feast

The order had not been well received by the force. Mere mention of Daniels’ name elicited jeers and curses. Inspired by the editorial cartoons that had ridiculed the initial announcement, sailors had renamed a captured Mexican ship USS Piffle until it was spotted by an admiral, who smiled but demanded that it be repainted immediately. Commanders rushed to comply with the order by selling as much alcohol as they could but found that their stores still contained a sizable supply of booze in the days prior to the “bone-dry” date. It was decided that ships would host one last banquet to say farewell and consume the remainder of alcohol.

US ships in 1914 near Veracruz. US Navy Photo

US ships in 1914 near Veracruz. US Navy Photo

Some ships were content with piling tables with food and booze, others got more creative and created themes such as “Wild West” saloons or held funerals where mourners could watch John Barlycorn’s burial at sea. A few ships decided it was easier just to pour all the alcohol on board into one large bowl to make a very strong punch. With ships from several other nations in the region to observe the situation in Veracruz, the U.S. Navy invited foreign contingents to join in the festivities. Soon parties from the British, French, German, Spanish and Dutch navies began to travel by small launches from ship to ship to help eliminate the soon-to-be contraband. The occasion would also be one of the last peaceful interactions between the navies for many years. A world war would erupt by the end of the month; less than a year after participating in the event, the German cruiser Dresden was hunted down and knocked out of action by the Royal Navy.

Drinking Slang from the Navy


– Grog is a concoction of rum, water and citrus juice that was originally drunk by British sailors and adopted by the U.S. Navy as a way to make stagnant water more palatable and to fight scurvy. Someone who is dazed or sleepy might feel as if they have had too much grog, making them “groggy.”

Three sheets to the wind

– Sheets on a ship are the ropes that control the sails. If a sheet becomes loose and starts flapping in the wind, the ship will lurch and rock. Someone who is cannot walk a straight line because they are staggering drunk is said to be “three sheets to the wind.”

Splice the main brace

– The main brace was the largest of the rigging on the ship and essential to controlling the vessel. A damaged main brace was difficult to repair, particularly in the midst of battle, so it became customary for the crew members who successfully spliced it to be rewarded with an extra ration of rum. The phrase came to mean a celebratory drink.


– To binge while on a ship meant to soak and rinse an empty cask in water. Sailors who needed more alcohol than their allotted ration would drink the binge water from rum casks in hopes that it would contain at least a few drops of booze. Binging also caused the wood to absorb water, much like a person binge drinking in the modern sense absorbs alcohol.

Down the hatch

– When sailors threw their heads back and poured alcohol down their throats, they equated it to manner in which cargo was loaded on ships by lowering it through the hatches on the deck.

Mind your Ps and Qs

– Popular folklore states the phrase refers to barkeeps having to be sure to track the “pints” and “quarts” ordered by sailors, but it more likely stems from the printing industry’s need to avoid accidentally reversing the letter blocks for “p” and “q” on the press.

Cup of Joe

– The common story that the term “cup of joe” for coffee originated from Secretary of the Navy Josephus Daniels’ order to prohibit alcohol in the fleet is probably a myth. The more plausible theory is that “joe” derives from “jamoke” – another nickname that was formed by combining the names of the coffee producing locations of Java and Mocha.

U.S. ships around the world held similar events to rid themselves of alcohol and mark the end of an era, but none came close in size and international participation than the soiree off Veracruz. When the 21st Amendment was ratified in 1933, the Navy conducted an informal poll of flag officers to determine if the policy of keeping the Fleet alcohol free should be reconsidered. The results of the poll clearly indicated that Navy leaders strongly preferred to continue prohibition on the ships, though the policy was modified to allow alcohol on shore at stores and clubs.


Secretary of the Navy Edward Hidalgo modified the Navy's drinking rules to allow two beers to sailors who had been at sea for more than 45 days.

Secretary of the Navy Edward Hidalgo modified the Navy’s drinking rules to allow two beers to sailors who had been at sea for more than 45 days.

There are exceptions to the rule. Ships keep a small stock of alcohol for so-called medicinal purposes such as when a crewmember is shaken by an accident or a pilot is suffering from the pressures of a demanding mission. The alcohol can only be issued on the authority of the medicinal officer or captain of the ship. During World War II, some submarine commanders, such as Adm. Eugene Fluckey of the USS Barb tried to relieve the stress of living in a contained and dangerous environment by providing his crew with beer after an enemy ship was sunk. In 1980, Secretary of the Navy Edward Hidalgo decided to allow crew members of ships that had been out to sea for an extended period to each have two beers (later set to 45 continuous days). According to letter by Capt. Lawrence B. Brennan, published in Naval History magazine, the surprise announcement to again permit limited beer on board was prompted by Hidalgo’s experience on USS Enterprise during World War II when a kamikaze attack plane crashed though an elevator and destroyed the cargo of beer.

  • JoeBtfsplk

    Anyone who’s served on a large vessel knows where the still is located. I’m pretty sure that tradition has survived.

    • jack anderson

      I was mostly on small ships and while pot was around, I never heard of any booze aboard, not even from torpedo men.

  • Joseph A. Clark

    What an even bigger insult is that the Navy named a ship after Daniels……British sailors were given a ration of beer in the days immediately after the ship left home port….when the beer was gone, then they were given rum, which was more potent, but watered down into grog, so the amount of alcohol a sailor got was pretty much the same day-to-day. They are restricted from drinking within 8 hours of assuming their watches, so it’s not like the sailors are a bunch of drunks……too bad ONE person had so much hatred of alcohol that he decided to tell everyone else how to live their lives. Yes, he was in a position of authority, but I believe he overstepped the boundaries of good morale in this case. Did I miss not having a beer at sea? No, not really, but I would have been much happier if “I” had been allowed to make the choice, not some high-falutin’, former newspaper editor and teetotaler. Suppose I had been in his position and he was a teetotaler and I said, “You WILL drink one pint of beer every day or I will have you court martialed.” Same idea……

    • Alan Zukor

      You are an idiot.

      • Todd McDonald

        Not helpful.

        • Alan Zukor


    • Indigo Mordant

      And here I thought a person in the armed forces would already be accustomed to a reality of reduced personal freedoms.

      I personally am rather excited about the Navy’s increased efficiency efforts, especially in the realm of automation, which would preclude the need for large complements of crew in the first place, and sizable beer deliveries too, I guess.

      • Alan G. Palazzo

        Are you serious? Minimum Manning ONLY works if you’re minimum manned. Obviously you have never served on a MM ship!!

      • E Wolfe

        Minimum manning is the thought process of bean counters not sailors. Try manning the duty station of a critical crew member on a MM ship when that member is killed or disabled, how about with 20% or the crew disabled. How about with the electronics knocked out, power out or hydraulics damaged. I do not believe that many of these new ships are equipped with redundant modes of control. They certainly are not properly armored to protect crew or vital equipment. Nor are they properly armed to defend themselves. The U.S. Navy today operates on the cheap, and eventually the nation will pay a price for that.

      • Actionwriter

        You would not have liked the life at NAS Cubi Point ( Phillippines) in 1990 then Indigo—we had draft beer at the chow hall EVERY NOON meal. You could have as much as you wanted but it was diligent to NOT return to your work area socked because you were 86’d from the beer scrog AND you risked having the spigot removed for a few days and your name –or on the LIST of names the reason. It was a bitch of a payback to have your name on that list. You caught every late watch, trash burn and gally duty that came up.

      • Bob Jarvis

        The reason that navy has gone to MM is that back in the day we were so successful with NMP – the Navy Manning Plan – which cut manpower on ships down to 85% of wartime normal, or something like that. So, if 85% works, how ’bout 75%? 65%? 50 – anyone for 50% of what’s considered necessary? WTF – why not just have enough people to turn around and relieve themselves? Port and starboard watch rotation is for wimps and losers! Port and REport – now you’re talkin’! (Thanks, I’ve been out for 30+ years now. Let the young folks be real men, says I… 🙂

  • allgayshaveaids

    this is what happend when you allow the f a g s to rule. it all went down hill with the women. f a g s are women but worse.

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  • Ron Noname

    That’s me in my avatar. Guess how I feel about this. lol

  • FoilHatWearer

    In 1994, we were underway in the Persian Gulf for 68 days straight and didn’t get any beer. Bunch of CRAP!!

    • tentaro

      it’s 90 days unfortunately…. I had 2 beers days in all of my15 years of service, they usually make sure they don’t happen lol

    • Alan G. Palazzo

      That’s because you might have had an idiot as BG Commander. I had many Steel Beach Cookouts during my time in the Navy and we ALWAYS had our 2 beers if we met over the 45 day rqmt!!

      • FoilHatWearer

        Our 2-month shakedown cruise (58 days without a port visit) was another one that we should’ve gotten 2 beers. We definitely had crappy leadership, that’s why I got out. They’re not looking for LPOs who think, find ways to do the job better, and do what’s right for their guys, they just want followers that question nothing. Biggest career-killer in the Navy: being an LPO and being able to do the job of your lazy chief and butter-bar division officer better than they can.

      • Sam Riddle

        Steel Beach picnics will be a thing of the past with the new ships that are coming out, they barely have a weather deck to go out on, sailors will be like submariners without the benefits…

        Have you seen the new DDG’s? My most memorable steel beach picnics was while going through the Panama Canal on our way to Guam for Homeport change on the USS Holland (AS 32) which just got broken up last year in TX.

  • Kevin Lewis

    We had 3 beer days in 1984 when I was on the USS Cochrane (DDG-21) and the USS Midway Battle Group during the Persian Gulf Conflict.172 days at sea…our relief Carrier was involved in an accident when it ran over a Russian Sub during an exercise and had to go into drydock in P.I.

    • Thomas Webster

      AH! The PI. San Migeal

    • Tony Munn

      I was there on the USS Reeves (CG24) Guided Missile Cruiser. We escorted the USS Stark out of the Gulf after it was hit by the Exocet missile. Definitely don’t miss those day. I miss my shipmates though.

  • Kevin Lewis

    Everyone had their own private stock onboard every ship I was ever stationed on…


      Ah, memories…..

      • Actionwriter

        One of the most vivid memories of the Korean war was when my VF squadron reported aboard the PhilSea and I caught Galley duty. Myself and Bernie Wilhelm loaded a captured five gallon can with raisins apricots and some water. Stuck it in a big storage cabinet in the back and waited. What we didn’t know was that there was a steam pipe behind the cabinet. Three days later, the five gallon exploded and made the most awful mess ever cleaned. But we weren’t in the galley when it happened. We were busy with three GQ when some MIG pilots liked to watch our reaction to a low pass and then afterburner back across the Yallow.


          Wonderful!! 🙂

    • TheSlot1942

      Yeah, and then those “Health and Comfort” inspections started and damn near caused every line officer to get deep-sixed by their crews.

  • FedUpWithWelfareStates

    The single biggest mistake ever made…same old story though, some Prude just has to get his way & enforce Their sense of morality over everyone else…the U.S. military is history…


    Bring Back the Booze!

  • The_Hitter

    hate teetotalers or any other self righteous types who force their beliefs on
    others. Plus, I like beer.

  • ADM64

    Banning alcohol on ships has worked better than banning fraternization.

  • ChiChiChiba

    While setting the longest continuous period at sea aboard USS Enterprise I saw two steel beach picnics, with allotted beers. On one occasion the festivities were wrecked by a TU95 flyover. The incredible din of counter rotating props flattened beer as well as expectations.

  • Sam Riddle

    Every ship has it’s drunks and they always managed to hide their booze for the impending cruise. One ship I was on they would lock themselves in the armory, I was also shocked to find a few rarities where people also smoked pot in the fan rooms and the uptakes. Another big thing is everyone buying duty free booze coming back from the caribbean.

    • Bob Jarvis

      A few drunks might have been a nice change. One night after hours my department head, who wasn’t on duty, showed up in the wardroom, grabbed me and a couple other JO’s, and said, “We’re inspecting CIC”. We got up there and he told us to look underneath everything, and if we found anything to sing out – but my department head went straight to the chart table, crawled under it, and came up with a couple of pill bottles wrapped in electricians tape. He’d obviously been tipped off by someone. Sent ’em off to be tested and…aspirin. 🙂 Somebody had *thought* they were buying some Good Sh*t, and ended up getting ripped off. Wish I could say I felt sorry for ’em…

  • VertRepper

    The biggest problem with the no-alcohol policy wasn’t what Josephus Daniels thought. It was some young sailors going on liberty away from home, hearth, sweeties and beer/mojo/whatever and hitting the liberty ports too hard. Saw it many, many times in WestPac. How many times you’d see sailors who didn’t drink on the ship (yes, there was liquor) “let loose” on their first liberty and sometimes continue for days if they didn’t have duty in port.

    I have always believed that a sane shipboard alcohol policy similar to the Brits and Aussies would have served US Navy better, those who chose to have drink after work/watch would not have been so tempted to go out and binge-drink. Make no mistakes about it, it was binge drinking and there was plenty of trouble to be had because of it.

    We moved a palette of Aussie Beer from a grateful Aussie Destroyer Skipper for helping him out with fresh water and repairs; it went straight to the reefers and wasn’t seen until an all-hands picnic months later.

    As for Hidalgo’s “beer days” had several onboard the supply ships I was on, and the Midway. Gave my beers away, ooops did I say that out loud? LOL!

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    • Bob Jarvis

      I was on a supply ship (USS Niagara Falls AFS-3) and we had beer on board, down on the chill decks, just for those picnics/parties in Diego Garcia or wherever. Occasionally some youngster would get the idea to filch a few, but a few would quickly turn into too many and they’d get caught, drunk as a skunk, sent up to mast, busted down to parade rest, and confined to the ship for the *next* time we were in port. Musta been good beers to go through all that for ’em!

  • Robert Brough

    Ike (CVN-69) was involved in an eight month deployment to the IO in 1980 in support of the hostage crisis in Iran. We had only one 5 day port visit (Singapore) and it was dubbed the “six pack cruise” because we had THREE beer days – two for each crew member along with a relaxing flight deck barbeque picnic each of those days. It was tightly controlled and great fun was had by all hands. Many watchstanders volunteered to forego their portion. Those special days occured some 45-60 days apart. There may well have been other such deployments since 1980.

    • Sam Riddle

      Yeah, and it was probably that flat 3/2 beer like we got in GITMO, man that stuff sucked, it tasted like piss even if you hadn’t had a beer in ages…

    • Pemur

      I liked my deployment on Ike…During the Persian Gulf deployment following Desert Storm, we had pizza and beer night every Saturday at sea. Oh…did I forget to mention that the beer was O’Douls? But hey, it was the thought that counts right?

  • buzzman1

    French field rat’s have brandy. The Germans deploy with Beer. The Russians deploy with vodka and Hookers. I think I was in the wrong army.

    • Bob Jarvis

      Oh, yeah – the Soviet “Indian Ocean squadron” – what a joke – I remember they were so short on fuel, or perhaps in such poor mechanical condition, that they used to be **towed** out to the IO! We were transiting the Straits of Malacca outbound to the IO one time when we passed one – they had some kind of small combatant (DE or similar) towing a cruiser. Everybody not doing something below-decks was lined up on the rail gawking and pointing and laughing and taking pictures. I’m glad I wasn’t an officer on that Soviet cruiser – that would have been embarrassing. Geez, getting **towed** umpteen thousand miles so you can anchor off Somalia or wherever for months on end? And then they Soviets would ship whores out to the ships – I guess if you were a good boy you got to bang the same broad that half the rest of the crew had just finished with. Talk about “sloppy seconds”..!

      • Sam Riddle

        If they were DIW all the time that would have to be one stinky dirty ship… Ugh… I couldn’t stand the stink just after a few GQ drills…

        • Bob Jarvis

          That reminds me of a comment I’d heard – something on the order of “Don’t get downwind from them…”. Ahem – in other words, I believe your analysis of their state of cleanliness is correct. 🙂

          • Sam Riddle

            Tie a flag around her face and funk her for glory.. the old adage was something like that… You know, how to deal with an ugly woman…


    I have had numerous discussion of alcohol on ships with British, German, Australian, and Canadian Officers, usually in their Wardroom over a beer. To a man, they were all thankful that they could have a beer onboard, and everyone, to a man, wished they had a dry Navy. The more senior they got, the more they wanted to change but didn’t see any way they could accomplish it.

  • zaza

    HOOP ! Break out the torpedo juice ! ! !

  • jack anderson

    In 1974 I was assigned to be the driver for the CO of a New Zealand ship that was at 32nd St, when I got over there the the Kiwi Captain told me that he was being picked up so I could either go back to my destroyer and stand Quarterdeck watches or hang out with his crew. Great guys, gave me a cools New Zealand Naval shirt and best of all they had a beer machine on the messdecks like we had one for Peps, had a coupla of “Strong” beers, which they certainly were and had a great time.

    • Sam Riddle

      Yeah that reminds me, we had beer machines in the barracks at the sub base I was assigned at where I met my ex wife, she went to toss a beer to a guy across the pool table and hit him right in the forehead, they took him back to his room and sewed him up right there… She was a torpedoman and the guy was a bubblehead… Don’t think they have beer machines anymore…

      • jack anderson

        i never saw beer machines in the surface navy, I guess I should have gone nuc, sounds like more fun, at least in port.

        • Bob Jarvis

          We had beer machines in the BOQ at the Amphib Base at Coronado in the ’79-’80 timeframe when I was at SWOS. Best. Invention. Ever. 🙂

          • jack anderson

            after my time, and as I was not an officer and a gentleman, I was only allowed 3.2 at the Scuttlebutt at 32nd St.

      • Rich Bongeorno

        Only three places i saw beer machines, off base in Okinawa, and on base at NAS Sigonella, and NAVSTA Rota Spain,guys who have ported in other ports in the med say they had them there as well

  • Bob Jarvis

    My recollection is that “medicinal” alcohol was eliminated on US Navy ships during the early 1980’s. ‘Course, I also recall visiting the ship one of my friends (a young lady who I’d gone through SWOS with) was stationed on and found that in her stateroom safe she had quite a fine collection of those little airline bottles of various liquors, etc. Wouldn’t run the risk myself (the ship I was stationed on had a CO who was strictly “by the book” and I’m confident that an officer found in violation of the alcohol prohibition would have been in some serious trouble) but thought it was funny as long as it wasn’t my neck in the noose.

  • Robotiff

    An interesting bunch of comments. I was an Marine Engineer in the Australian Navy for 36 years (both enlisted and commissioned) and in my career I saw many changes in the Navy. A regular beer issue at sea was one. In the 70s and 80s a night at sea without a beer was a rarity, unless the ship was flying, doing a RAS, etc. A beer issue was BTW is two beers per man perhaps! By the time I got out 3 years ago a beer issue was indeed a rarity! I personally rarely drank at sea but it was nice to have that option. The other topic discussed here I found interesting is manning levels. I think many navies around the world went seriously down the ‘minimum/optimum’ manning model road long before the USN and I always figured the USN was doing the right thing. History shows that when the war fighters get it wrong its people with their DC skills that save a ship. It is well documented that personnel costs over the life of a ship is very significant so from a financial respect it makes sense. I think Navy head sheds need to reassess this – maybe find some middle ground between the ‘old’ full size crews vs the minimum or optimum manned ones we now have.

    • Sam Riddle

      I got out in 1995 after almost 12 years and I was a Hull Maintenance Technician when they were combined with the Damage Controlman and I was a fire party on scene leader as well as a repair locker on scene leader underway and the only qualified welder on a Perry class fast frigate (FFG 7).

      In the early 80’s I was assigned to the USS McInerney (FFG 8) and it was the first of the automated ships with remote automated valves, remote SSDG startups and shutdowns from command control central with a DC board that indicated high bilge levels, and tank level indicators, high temp alarms and so on from command control central, this has allowed ships to reduce manning on the one hand. I’m sure this is pretty standard stuff now.

      But on the other hand you still have to consider the human element with watch standers on the other, I can remember being on port and starboard watches 6 on 6 off during holidays and sometimes even underway and then you have to get up and work 8-10 hours with ships maintenance on top of that, and then there are casualty drills on top of that, fire, flooding, engineering failures etc.

      If you end up in a scenario with any casualties I think logically you’re gonna find reduced manning levels to be a risky proposition, experienced sailors don’t grow on trees and some break sooner than others under high stress especially younger sailors with issues at home or problems adjusting at sea.

      After 9/11 there were additional security watches as well as 50. cal gun crews added to the watch standers list and now all sea service sailors are being forced into 9 month deployment vs 6.

      Of course I’m less informed on this and maybe someone can straighten me out if I’m wrong.

      But, damn, you just get home and get things straightened out and you’re headed out on another deployment, and you have to go on mini training deployments prior to that, not to mention when you are home you’re in a restricted availability replacing outdated or worn out equipment. That’s some pretty high tempo stuff in my opinion and something has got to give somewhere.

      Even though I miss the Navy a lot, thank God I’m out and don’t have to deal with the stress of that… And most of all it takes a special breed to do all of this and keep such a great attitude and be so competitive with their peers in the Navy and being combat ready to take on the enemies of the world…

      Man, I am proud of our kids and what they are doing, under such difficult circumstances, and you’d think that if taxpayers were more aware of this they would be more than willing to give the Navy what it needs to ensure we’re not wearing down our best asset just to be tossed out like dirty dishwater…

      And, I rarely drink now, but there was a time not long ago after a hard days work, there was nothing that tasted better than a six pack of ice cold beer!

      • Bob Jarvis

        Six month deployments? (*scratches head*) Don’t think I remembers me any of those. 🙂 August ’80 through April ’81 (8 months), then March through November ’82 (another eight months). I liked being deployed – all the “my wife she…” and “my dog it…” crap disappeared over the horizon astern along with CONUS. And all the admin BS and “can’t get no spare parts” crap also disappeared the second we out-chopped to 7th Fleet.

  • Jeff Kindrick

    In December of ’71 I was a Plane Captain with VA-97 deployed aboard U.S.S. Enterprise in WestPac. We had just celebrated the ship’s 10th birthday in November with one of the best cuts of Prime Rib I’ve ever enjoyed. We were 24 hours out of Subic after finishing a 30 day line period on Yankee Station when the Indian/Pakistani War went hot, and of course, Nuclear Task Force 1 (and only at that time) reversed course and headed for the Indian Ocean to show the flag. We ended up spending 63 days at sea if memory serves, a record for the USN up to that time, celebrating Christmas as well. There were some Soviet warships shadowing us during that time, and our air ops were limited to bombing and strafing a target sled towed well behind the ship. It was the only time I actually saw the M-61 Vulcan cannons on our A-7Es fire.

    My folks had sent a care package which included three airline size bottles of booze courtesy of Bill O’toole, a family friend and saloon proprietor. I was sharing those with three of my cube mates, mixed with coke. We were all sitting on the top bunks when the curtain of our cube was swept open by the squadron CO, wishing us a Merry Christmas. Caught in the act, I smiled and explained the situation, then courteously offered him a share. He just as courteously declined, also with a smile, told us to enjoy ourselves and proceeded to the next cube. I never heard a word about it afterwards.

  • Franklin Morehead

    As a tin can sailor in the fifties and sixties we maid raisin jack . The torpedo men would test runs on there fish, then drain there fish and replace the torpedo juice with new , save the old for drinking.

  • James Michael Ritz

    We had “Steel Beach parties” and you got 2 poker chips to get cold beer with…They opened the can when you got it so you had to drink it right then and there…Also whenever we were in Baltimore we’d hit the ligour store right off the pier and purchase a bunch of Minitures and bring them back aboard…As a radioman we worked in and A/C space and we’d trade the Doc’s and hour sleeping on burn bags for a miniature of PGA….

  • CHEERS!!!

  • Thor Erick

    Yet again….they try to legislate morality…
    And yet again…it fails.
    I’ve seen it in all the services.
    No booze…
    No girly magazines…
    Now go out and fight and die….but you can’t have a drink….

    • g kelly

      And yet, it is hard to think that 8 ounces of rum a day would advance discipline or efficient operation of complex modern ships and weapons systems.

    • The Professor

      My father’s Army unit generally were served beer at the end of whatever ridiculous slog through the jungles to contact VC they were doing each day in Vietnam. A general got the notion he should go out into the boonies and inspire them with a pep talk, so the beer was traded out for Coke. To a man all said they’d be much more inspired by skipping the general’s speech and getting the beer, but naturally the general continued with the plan.

  • johnKHut

    “Sheets are ropes that control the sails”.
    Please, this is a navy/nautical forum.
    1) They were not/are not “ropes,” but, instead, are LINES. They control only the fore & aft trimming of the sails.

  • Brent Leatherman

    Not arguing with your basic premise, but to be honest, on most ships close to 90% of the crew is under 21 (well, maybe not quite that many, but you catch my drift), stands to reason that they’d get most of the gigs.

    • Doug Chaney

      Then again and correct me if I am wrong, the draft age is 18, voting age is 18 and various states of the US allow drinking at 18 …if you can die and vote should you not fricken have the right to drink what a 21 year old can?

  • slackdammit

    A retired sub-mariner told me that the torpedoes were powered by ethanol. Some of that ethanol also powered sailors, he said.

  • Nicholas Odell

    Grog was named by Royal Navy ratings after Admiral Vernon, who decreed that the daily rum ration had to be diluted 2:1 with water. He used to wear a cloak over his uniform made from a material called grogram, and thus had the nickname “Old Grog.” The diluting was unpopular among the sailors, hence its opprobious name grog.