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Commanders Call for More Resiliency in Amphib Ships, Information Systems

U.S. 5TH FLEET AREA OF OPERATIONS (Aug. 6, 2017) An MH-60S Sea Hawk helicopter assigned to the Chargers of Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 26 delivers retrograde from the amphibious assault ship USS Bataan (LHD 5) to the fleet replenishment oiler USNS Kanawha (T-AO 196) during a vertical replenishment on Aug. 6, 2017. US Navy Photo

ANNAPOLIS, Md. — Calling the work help desk for password resets can be frustrating under normal situations, but try it while being tailed by a Russian surveillance ship, avoiding the Iranian Navy and steering clear of small craft potentially carrying explosives.

Capt. Larry LeGree, commodore of Amphibious Squadron 8, recently returned from deployment with the Bataan Amphibious Ready Group and described submitting the forward commander’s equivalent of a cry for tech help to just get systems running again while sailing through a crowded and not often unfriendly neighborhood.

“I sent 14 casualty reports this deployment to get a password [changed] or to get a configuration,” LeGree said.
“I shouldn’t have to do that.”

Speaking Tuesday at the NDIA Expeditionary Warfare Conference in Annapolis, LeGree’s comments were part of a panel discussing resiliency during recent amphibious operations.

While deployed, a ship’s crew or even the ARG staff often needs to make do with the resources available. A ship’s operations are continual and the threat in forward locations doesn’t diminish just because a system is down.

“I didn’t have the ability to have downtime when operating off the coast of Yemen,” LeGree said.

A number of a ship’s communications systems, security systems, and intelligence systems are designed with maximum security in mind or are not commonly taught to Navy personnel training to maintain such systems. When in homeport, specialists can be called or brought onboard to fix problems. While deployed, LeGree said that’s a different story.

Capt. Larry Legree, commodore speaks during a safety stand down aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Bataan (LHD-5) on Aug. 23, 2017. US Navy Photo

“We simply don’t have the access out on the ships at sea to reconfigure them if something goes down,” LeGree said.

Having to spend a lot of time evaluating a system, getting the right technician to fix a system, or calling land-based support is a vulnerability for forward-deployed ships, LeGree said.

In a perfect world, ships would have one basic operating system with technicians trained to keep it running, he said. But the reality is several systems onboard are one-off systems, and maybe only one sailor in the ARG is trained to troubleshoot and fix any problems. LeGree said the Navy has to plan for self-sufficiency when designing ships.

Capt. Mike Crary, commander of the Makin Island ARG, detailed how more than half of the recently completed 214-day deployment was spent either in a split configuration or disaggregated – with ARG ships operating in two different theaters of operation. The ARG operated in Asia and supported counter ISIS operations.

The ARG might have the right staff for various tasks, but the personnel could be hundreds of miles away from the ship in need, Crary said. This applies to tech support, but also medical and intelligence needs.

Crary wants more surgical teams deployed, to help reduce the risk posed to sailors when an ARG operates in a split configuration. If there were a medical emergency, the surgical team could take hours or more to reach the patient.

Capt. Michael Crary, Commander, Amphibious Squadron Five, salutes sideboys after arriving on the flight deck of the amphibious dock landing ship USS Comstock (LSD-45). US Navy Photo

Both Crary and LeGree said ARGs need more intelligence staff. The missions take ships into contested regions, where threats are posed from both shore and by small vessels on the water. The risk to ships increases. Crary said, “One of the areas to mitigate that risk is more intelligence specialists.”

LeGree used whatever resources were available, including ones he described as “non-traditional ways to use ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance).” During his recent deployment, LeGree used unmanned aerial vehicles to gather information about possible threats and called 15 guided missile cruisers operating nearby because they possess capabilities the ARG just doesn’t have.

“Part of resiliency is fixing it ourselves,” LeGree said.

  • Ed L

    Hazards of computer systems at sea! What do you need to do is find a mix between high-tech and low-tech. Various types of operating systems on each ship. Maybe one sailor out of 5000 knows how to fix just one of those systems. Warships have been sailing the seven seas for over 1000 years without computers But now all of a sudden you need computers to navigate in a crowded roadster it strait. Looks like the kiss principal needs to be Followed. This were up and out hurts. You have a 3rd class your SME on a system. They can’t or have no desire to get promoted. That Petty Officer wants to say but then get scouted by the tech rep from company that provides support. Bye bye SME. Every Ship I was on we lose very capable ET’s, OS’s RM’s etc. to companies providing tech support for ship systems

    • Rocco

      I don’t think you get the big picture here!!!

      • Ed L

        Just your Typical bureaucratic screw up by Pentagon desk jockeys in the design of a warship. Disable the computers launch 50 vampires at the ARG. 5000 or more dead sailors and marines

        • Rocco

          Just your typical troll response!!!

          • Ed L

            Right on a typical response from some one that has been there and shot at many times by mr or mrs I hate america

    • Randy García

      Let the landing force control the IT systems and budget and you will see a 180 degree turnaround in capability.

      • Ed L

        So true.

  • Randy García

    I got on a flag-configured LPD in 2006 and it had stripped down Wang computer shells in the LFOC. The Navy burns blue in support of green money like it was garbage day.

    • Ed L

      When on staff we would bring our own PC’s, JOTs, word processors, typewriters (manual and electric). Pens, pencils, and a basic load out of paper etc

  • MarlineSpikeMate

    Lack of training. Sailors struggle to fix ship equipment. Collateral duties and program management take a higher priority. It is twisted.

    • Ed L

      Too many Sensitivity classes

  • MarlineSpikeMate

    much more systemic then manning.

    • Da Facts

      I agree. The problem with IT/Comm issues is not unique to deployed ships. Cyber Security/Threats have placed a whole lot of roadblocks for both good and bad actors, and like most threat reduction approaches hamper the 100 legitimate users more than the 1 nefarious actor.

  • Curtis Conway

    “…called 15 guided missile cruisers…” We only have 22, and most are not operational at any one time. Though they do have resources on board.


    Again, the over reliance on higher tech showing its hampering of modern fleet units.