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Russia Refutes Pentagon Claims Some Caspian Strike Missiles Failed Over Iran

The aftermath of an alleged strike from a Wednesday Russian land attack cruise missile. Russian Ministry of Defense Image

The aftermath of an alleged strike from a Wednesday Russian land attack cruise missile. Russian Ministry of Defense Image

Russia is pushing back against reports that several of its SS-N-30A land attack cruise missiles (LACM) failed over Iran during a 26 missile launch from the Caspian Sea to targets in Western Syria, according to Kremlin controlled media.

According to a Thursday reports from CNN and Defense News, four of the SS-N-30As — also called Kalibr NK or 3M-14T — fell over Iran and may have hurt or killed civilians. Both Russia and Iran have denied the reports.

“Unlike CNN, we don’t report quoting anonymous sources, but we show launches of our missiles and the targets they hit in real-time mode,” Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said, according to state-controlled Sputnik.
“No matter how unpleasant and unexpected it is for our colleagues in the Pentagon and Langley, our strike yesterday with precision-guided weapons at ISIS infrastructure in Syria hit its targets.”

Likewise, the Iranian Defense Ministry has denied claims from anonymous Pentagon sources that the weapons failed over Iran chalking up the reports to western, “psychological warfare.”

Given the likely flight profile of the SS-N-30As — through Iran and Iraq — Iranian officials at least had some warning of the strike and most likely deconflicted their airspace to make way for the missiles.

In response, Russia has posted some videos of the targets allegedly struck by the missiles, but time and location information on the videos were not included.

Russian officials have proved to be less than reliable in their claims surrounding their involvement in Syria. For example, initially the Russian Navy claimed e deployment of elements of the Black Sea fleet to the Eastern Mediterranean had nothing to do with the Syrian conflict, when in fact the ships were sortied to create an air defense bubble around Russian forces in eastern Syria.

Wednesday’s more than 900 mile missile strike — originating from four Russian combatants in the Caspian Sea — was an unexpected show of military technology acumen and occurred without any warning to the U.S. led collation conducting airstrikes over Syria.

All at once the Caspian Sea strike showed both the ability of some of its platforms to conduct long range land attack strikes like the U.S. and the limitations of its older ships.

The Black Sea surface action group off of Syria’s west coast was much closer to the targets but do not have the capability to launch the same level of LACMs.

While Russia claims the all the targets were Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the State Department said this week that 90 percent of Russian targets were not related to ISIS.

  • Curtis Conway

    The Russians are conducting FOT&E in the field, burning up old inventory, collecting data for the improved product. This is a systemic repeat of the ICBM upgrade program.

    • Sibir_RUS

      It is open information.
      Our terrestrial component of the nuclear triad (RVSN) will be updated on 100% by 2020. Will adopted new complex RS-26 “Rubezh”, the combat railway missile complex “Barguzin” and new heavy liquid ICBM “Sarmat”.

  • vincedc

    I don’t think the Russians should joke about the truth getting in the way of a CNN story. That privilege should be reserved for Americans. I was a victim of one of their outlandish stories years ago. They will never regain their credibility.

    • Steve Skubinna

      If the question arises of who do you believe, the Russians or CNN, your best bet is to pick neither.

      • sferrin

        It’s not called the Communist News Network for nothin’.

    • Sibir_RUS

      CNN confused Ukraine with Pakistan, and shows Ukrainian BUK-M1 with number 312, calling it Russian. CNN has not apologized even after an interview, that gave a former Ukrainian soldier, who personally served on this “Buk” M-1 with No. 312,

  • Mmm Bee

    I will CRUSH the COSSAK slop eaters as they bow their heads to feed from the trough. Bonsai !!!! !!!!!!

    • SixSixSix

      Don’t believe even Abe is considering getting into this fight.

  • disqus_zommBwspv9

    The article talked about the Black Sea fleet not being able to conduct a launch due to no,capability. I wonder if they understand geography, etc. it’s like conducting a launch at Phoniex AZ from the pacfic when you have assets in the Gulf of Mexico Now the targets were ISIS But Assume the Russians sees as ISIS and Syrian anti rebel groups as one and the same. Now turkey and their dislike for the Kurds that is another storm happening right now in the same region

  • KazuakiShimazaki

    We will never know for sure how many missiles failed, but really it is nothing to get that excited over in either case. The Pentagon didn’t even really want to admit the Russians launched such a long range strike…

    • sferrin

      “The Pentagon didn’t even really want to admit the Russians launched such a long range strike…”

      You actually believe that? The USN has launched thousands of similar missions over the years. This little show is hardly enough to lose sleep over.

      • Sibir_RUS

        You can sleep not worrying. Russia is not going to attack the United States.
        We want to live in peace with all countries on this planet.

      • Fred Gould

        However, excellent chance to observe and take notes.

        • Sibir_RUS

          The US spend 10 million a day from the pocket of American taxpayers on imitation of the fight against ISIL – this is corruption.

          …As of Sep. 15, 2015, the total cost of operations related to ISIL since kinetic operations started on Aug. 8, 2014, is $4 billion(!) and the average daily cost is $10 million for 404 days of operations

        • Sibir_RUS

          12.10.2015
          Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation
          Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic continues strikes against ISIS infrastructures.
          In the course of the last 24 hours, Russian military aircraft Su-34, Su-24M and Su-25SM have performed 55 combat sorties engaging 53 ISIS objects in the Homs, Hamah, Lattakia and Idlib provinces. The means of space and air reconnaissance continue detection of new ISIS objects on the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic 24 hours a day for their further engagement by the Russian air group.
          During all sorties, the Russian strike aviation is covered by Su-30 fighters. As a result of a pinpoint strike of Su-24M bombers near Salma settlement (Lattakia province), fragmentation air bombs destroyed a large ISIS transfer point with underground facilities and ammunition depots detected by means of space reconnaissance.
          Detonation of munitions caused large fire. The object was completely destroyed. Su-34 bombers engaged a militants’ camp located near Al-Mastumah (Idlib province). According to the reconnaissance data, the camp was used as a concentration point, where militants from different countries were trained. At the same camp, terrorists were taught special tactics and sapper skills under the leadership of experienced instructors.
          Near Tal Sukeyk (to the north of Hamah), a Su-25 attack aircraft eliminated a column of automobile vehicles, which transported munitions and fuel to the ISIS terrorist positions in that area. Three petrol tank vehicles escorted by two off-road vehicles with large caliber machine guns were destroyed. In the recent days, terrorists are undertaking desperate attempts to ferry munitions, armament, fuel and equipment from the Raqqah province to the contact line with the Syrian Armed Forces.
          Significant part of their armament, ammunitions, fuel for military vehicles is already eliminated by pinpoint strikes of the Russian aircraft. In this area of the Hamah province, a Su-24M bomber destroyed an ISIS underground command centre with a KAB-500 guided air bomb. The precision strike eliminated all the engineer facilities of terrorists.
          Near Tal Sukeyk (Hamah province), a Su-25 attack aircraft engaged a militants’ mobile mortar position detected by UAVs. The pinpoint strike resulted in destruction of three off-road vehicles equipped with mortars and one lorry with munitions.
          The attacks of the Russian air group carried out within the last 24 hours resulted in destruction of the following objects:
          25 fortified areas and defensive positions with armament and military equipment;
          terrorist strong point near Salma settlement (Lattakia province);
          7 command centres of militants;
          6 terrorist field training camps;
          6 ammunition depots;
          a column of automobile vehicles;
          3 underground shelters in the Lattakia province;
          1 mobile mortar group.

          • Sibir_RUS

            For comparison:
            October 12, 2015
            U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
            Airstrikes in Syria
            Fighter and remotely piloted aircraft conducted two airstrikes in Syria:
            — Near Hasakah, one strike struck an ISIL tactical unit and destroyed an ISIL building.
            — Near Washiya, one strike struck an ISIL tactical unit and destroyed an ISIL tactical vehicle.

    • Sibir_RUS

      According to official information of the Ministry of defence of the Russian Federation – all missiles hit the targets

    • Sibir_RUS

      According to the statement of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief
      from 11 October 2015 maximum range of “Caliber-NK” 4500 km (2800 miles).

      • Secundius

        @ Sibir_RUS.

        The Problem with the Cailber-NK is, it’s NOT a TERRAIN FOLLOWER. Thing’s Like Tree’s, Ridges, Depression’s or any other IMPERFECTIONS that Don’t exist in a Maritime Setting. Tends, to CONFUSE the Caliber-NK’s Russian Guidance System…

        • OR

          you are right there are things to work on and improve performance

  • Chesapeakeguy

    I’m actually expecting them to (eventually) say that their cruise missiles ‘landed’ in Iran!

    • Sibir_RUS

      It’s a lie of CNN citing an anonymous source.
      Iran denied reports of the CNN on the fall of the Russian missiles on its territory
      When CNN cites an anonymous source – you can be sure, they lie to absolve themselves of any responsibility.
      The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation: ” All Cruise missiles successfully hit all set targets. The accuracy engage targets at long range was not more than 3 meters.”

      • publius_maximus_III

        And, of course, why would Iran lie for Russia? To ask the question is to answer it, Tovarish Siberia.

        • Sibir_RUS

          CNN even unable to distinguish Pakistan from Ukraine

        • Sibir_RUS

          In the preparation and adoption of the Bill of Rights has played an important role Thomas Jefferson – a known rapist-pеdоphile at those time. In his possession was a factory, which exploited slave labor of children.
          In the Bill of Rights, Thomas Jefferson, wrote “That all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent and unalienable rights, amongst which are the enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.”

          Psychologists of the USA and Canada are for the legalization of pеdophilia When discussing the law about pеdophilia in the canadian Parliament in people with mental disabilities in sexual behavior found defenders, who called pedophilia “sеxual orientations on a par with homosеxuality”. And in the United States, meanwhile, there is a special organization, which fights for the legalization of pеdophilia.
          Сanadian psychologists are not alone in his views about pеdophiles.
          In the USA there is the organization of “B4U-ACT”, which purpose is lеgalization of pеdophilia, informs Lifesitenews.
          The organization consists of many respected psychologists from Harvard, the University of Illinois and Louisville. They called pеdophiles “people who involve minors” and claim that criminal prosecution of such individuals “unscientific”. Representatives of “B4U-ACT”, as well as their canadian-minded, believe pеdophilia sеxual orientation.
          During Obama’s presidency the USA has not expanded its international legal obligations in the humanitarian field and still participates only in three out of nine core human rights treaties. The Americans have not so far ratified the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women and the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (only Somalia has not also acceded to it).

          • publius_maximus_III

            Well, yeah, but didn’t you rape Secundius’ mom, Bolshoi…

            Of all the animals, only man is capable of blushing — and for good reason. Your country’s historical figures, let’s just limit it to Lenin and Stalin and da Poot, might have all been somewhat duplicitous at some point in their careers, no?

            Thomas Jefferson was certainly no saint, but he was most definitely not a mass murderer or a raiding marauder. I’ll take my country’s solid foundation over yours any day. Truth be known, so would you.

          • Sibir_RUS

            Thomas Jefferson was a pedophile and he used labor of child slaves. But this did not prevent him to compose the bill of rights.

          • Secundius

            @ Sibir_RUS.

            As I recall, during Thomas Jefferson’s time. THERE WERE NOT CHILD LABOR LAW’S, ANYWHERE, INCLUDING CZARIST RUSSIA…

          • Sibir_RUS

            You’re confusing. We never trade negroes–slaves from Africa.

          • Secundius

            @ Sibir_RUS.

            Yes you did! They were call SERFS…

          • Sibir_RUS

            SERFS Negros in Russia?
            you’re an idiot.

      • bass_man86

        So Russian technology is 100% reliable!?!?! I find that too be quite a stretch. Methinks thou dost protest too strongly! Maybe you are simply uncomfortable confronting a bit of news you feel is a personal attack on the Rodina? If you do not want to deal with American military point of view you should consider not visiting this web site.

        • Sibir_RUS

          American military point of view with reference to anonymous source?

          • bass_man86

            Look, western news sources routinely quote anonymous sources under the aegis of protecting their sources of information; that does not make them reliable or unreliable for that matter. As far as all Russian Navy cruise missiles making it to target, I do not find it all beyond the realm of imagination that some of these missiles may have failed to reach the designated targets. In fact I find it quite credible. As far as the American military point of view, speaking myself I certainly fall in that bracket. If you disagree with me that’s fine, but if you are going to say that that CNN report is a lie you should produce something that supports your contention rather than simply saying the folks at CNN “lie to absolve themselves of any responsibility.” Responsibility for what? What is their interest in lying?

          • Sibir_RUS

            CNN is lying, you just find out about this?
            Who is afraid of this anonymous source and was it ever?
            I think CNN made it up themselves.

          • bass_man86

            How do you know that they are lying? Maybe CNN is presenting something that is making you uncomfortable hence your passionate belief that CNN is somehow lying.

          • Sibir_RUS

            they did not provide evidence.

          • OR

            maybe failed maybe not.. but for some odd reason obviously it is very important for you to believe that this particular new hardware is unreliable.. ask yourself why.. btw if they did it’s ok no worries at all, now they know what to fix, mass firing at this scale is not usually conducted during the tests, here during the test they also get to hit some real targets.. like I say don’t worry and expect the next batch to be much more reliable.

          • bass_man86

            Please do not put words in my mouth or pretend to know what I believe. I already told you what I happen to think and what I believe. There is no mendacity involved in my response. Again, you can agree with me or not, it really does not matter in the long run.

          • OR

            I would not put anything in your mouth.. just suggested something maybe worth considering and I don’t take side except mine, ..but again you are reflecting on importance of me agreeing with you or not ..I wasn’t even talking about this.. I think two people interested in a conversation would try to understand each other point rather than stating that the other ones opinion does not matter – shows your class and the true nature of your activity here too..

          • bass_man86

            Okay, perhaps I am not being clear here. It is not important for me to believe that these missiles are somehow unreliable. I merely pointed in my initial post “that some of these missiles may have failed to reach the designated targets.” Please notice that I did not make any absolute statements simply because I do not know if that is the case or not. If that constitutes a lack of class on my part so be it.

          • OR

            accepted, in this case my statement regarding your class is apparently groundless.. btw Russians lunched 70+ more cruise missiles.. I wonder how many ‘failed’..

  • SixSixSix

    Does nobody note the significance of this: “For example, initially the Russian Navy claimed e deployment of elements of the Black Sea fleet to the Eastern Mediterranean had nothing to do with the Syrian conflict, when in fact the ships were sortied to create an air defense bubble around Russian forces in eastern Syria.”

    Air defense from whom? As has been pointed out recently, ISIS doesn’t have aircraft. Other Syrian resistance forces against Assad do not have aircraft either. So who is it?

    Iraq – hardly, thanks to the inept invasion and occupation of Iraq by the US, Iraq is now firmly the Western province of Iran thus making Iran the undisputed leader of the Shiite Triple Entente, Iran, Iraq and Syria, to complete the Shiite Crescent from the Indian Ocean to the Western Mediterranean. So while they have aircraft they all fly with the neo-Soviets, not against them.

    Israel? Maybe. Israel could blow the entire crude Soviet era air power out of the sky as it has many time before over Syria, but Israel is not stupid enough to tangle directly with Putin’s neo-Soviets. Turkey – sure if the neo-Soviets keep pulling on NATO’s tail. But is Putin that stupid with much face to lose and nothing obvious to gain? The US, Canada, UK, etc.? Similar issue, do they really want to let the US and Europe show off their air superiority capability? Once such a thing starts, bye bye neo-Soviet planes, and their ships at sea as juicy targets

    So is this the Spanish Civil War redux? Yet another chance for world powers to test and the show off for future sales their almost front line military equipment. Is Putin really challenging American international arms sales which are by far the largest in the world. Apparently what goes around comes around, follow the trail of the money. If so, watch for a massive jump in sales by the US military industrial complex and military welfare for foreign countries provided by the Pentagon. Good old Putin might just give the US a militarized Keynesian stimulus like under Reagan, the only kind that Republicans believe in.

  • Navyjag907

    I believe everything the Russians have claimed excepting the strange stuff about Thomas Jefferson. I lived close to Monticello for a year while the Navy sent me to the University of Virginia and never heard anything about pedophilia on the part of Mr. Jefferson. However, I do accept every Russian claim about the 100% reliability of their cruise missiles and their exact targeting of whatever it was they were shooting at. The Russians never lie and Americans rarely tell the truth; I went to the US Naval Lie School and know that is so.

    • WhatNow

      You’re jealous and resentful and clearly feeling insecure. The more you attack your Russian colleagues in childish and unprofessional manner the more you look like a dumb kid.

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