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Navy Official: China Training for ‘Short Sharp War’ with Japan

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Chinese marines assault a beach during the Mission Action 2013 exercise. Xinhua Photo

Chinese marines assault a beach during the Mission Action 2013 exercise. Xinhua Photo

China has long trained for an amphibious invasion of Taiwan during military exercises but has expanded its training to include a similar attack on Japanese holdings in the East China Sea, according the chief of intelligence of the U.S. Pacific Fleet (PACFLEET).

As part of China’s Mission Action 2013 exercise — a massive exercise between the all branches of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) — the military trained for taking the Senkaku Islands, said Capt. James Fanell, deputy chief of staff intelligence and information operations for PACFLEET.


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“We witnessed the massive amphibious and cross military region enterprise — Mission Action 2013,” Fanell said at the West 2014 conference on Feb. 13 in San Diego, Calif.
“[We] concluded that the PLA has been given the new task to be able to conduct a short sharp war to destroy Japanese forces in the East China Sea following with what can only be expected a seizure of the Senkakus or even a southern Ryukyu [islands] — as some of their academics say.”

In the last year, China has increased the military activity has additionally increased provocative military actions in the South China Sea around the so-called Nine Dash Line — China’s expansive claim into the region in conflict with several other international claims.

“As a senior U.S. government official recently stated, there is growing concern that China’s pattern of behavior in the South China Sea reflects an incremental effort by China to assert control of the area contained in the so-called 9-dash line despite the objections of its neighbors, and despite the lack of any explanation or apparent basis under international law.” Fanell said.

He then detailed a series of what he called aggressive actions taken by China against its neighbors over the past year. Some of those actions, including combat drills in the south Philippine Sea were described as China’s “protection of maritime rights.”

“By the way, protection of maritime rights is a Chinese euphemism for coerce seizure of coastal rights of China’s neighbors,” Fanell said.

“The next week (the week after the combat drill in the south Philippine Sea) in the East China Sea, Japan said that a Chinese warship locked its fire-controlled radar onto a Japanese warship. China denied it for a month, but then admitted that it occurred, but said that it was not in danger since the range between the two ships was too close for a weapons system,” he said.
“Seriously, you just can’t make this stuff up.”

Fanell also called out quasi-military actions by the newly created Chinese Coast Guard which unified five mostly civil maritime services.

Chinese Coast Guard vessel

Chinese Coast Guard vessel

“Tensions in the South and East China Seas have deteriorated with the Chinese Coast Guard playing the role of antagonist, harassing China’s neighbors while PLA Navy ships, their protectors, (make) port calls throughout the region promising friendship and cooperation.”

Fanell noted the nation has allocated $1.6 million on improvements to disputed South China Sea outposts. Developing ports, air fields, water purification and surveillance systems. “Meanwhile, China describes efforts by other nations to improve the navigability of their outposts as egregious provocations and responded with threats.”

Fanell’s assessment of the Chinese lies seemingly in contrast to American efforts to forge close military-to-military ties with the country.

On the same panel the Navy’s head of operations, plans and strategy, Rear Adm. James Foggo described a successful meeting between U.S. Navy officials and the head of the PLAN, Adm. Wu Shengli. The U.S. delegation toured PLAN ships and submarines. However, shortly after they left, the Chinese declared the controversial Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) over a large swath over the East China Sea in November.

The U.S. is also continuing to work out plans for the Chinese navy to participate in the Rim of the Pacific 2014 (RIMPAC) exercise later this year.

  • Sid Tran

    China’s military will be in for a surprise if they think this short conflict would be a cake walk.

    • Matt

      Is your confidence found in Japan’s military or are your offering up America’s military brethren for another war?

      • jerseydave

        Japan is quite capable, but if we leave our allies alone they will be attacked one by one until it is our turn. Of course, Japan going off on their own would create other worries politically, so the US maintaining a strong presence to keep the Japanese and Chinese from getting into a furball is the best way to keep the peace and not have a war break out.

        We also have treaties with the nations in the region which make things rather academic. We are treaty bound.

        • Matt

          Will you be volunteering to go on this treaty bound initiative?

          • jerseydave

            Someone missed the point where us having a presence deters war.

            In 1938 the self appointed great geniuses of western politics thought that giving Germany part of Czechoslovakia would bring eternal peace to Europe.

            Had Europe stood firm ol ‘Dolfy might well have stayed home and saved a lot of pain to a lot of people.

            You missed the part where, if war breaks out, the treaties kick in – My point was deterring a war so they wouldn’t have to kick in, a la Ronald Reagan in the Cold War.

          • They call me “Laowei”

            Excellent point, sir!

          • Prelusive007

            People at the local dry cleaners call my buddy, Larry, Laowei too! *(one calls him “Laurie”! ha!)

          • They call me “Laowei”

            Tell Larry it is a slur that PRC Chinese call a foreigner. They still still use it when they immigrate to America and call us foreigners in our own country! Lol

          • They call me “Laowei”

            Its not as bad as the N word, so just have a laugh with Larry about it. :-)

          • Matt

            First…you made no mention of treaties. Thus, you can’t say I missed to point in relation to treaties when you didn’t mention it. Nice opportunistic try.
            Second, you relayed much confidence on how short this war won’t be. I simply asked where your confidence came from. This isn’t 1938, this isn’t 1980, so cute analogies on war strategies in those eras falls short of any real relevance in 2014. Military Strategy of the 21st century resembles nothing of the twentieth century.
            Third, do you know the distance between China and these islands? China could have that island within a day…2 max. Thus at that point, our options are very limited. We’re not going to decimate an island in the name of saying “It’s Japans;” that defeats the purpose of fighting to begin with. The next option is sending in the Marines. Given the population of China’s military (totaling the entire US population) in relation to the distance they are from those islands….compared to our PACOM Marines, we would need to augment our current numbers by a flipping a lot. This would require an amphibious assault totaling more marines than we have; China has too many men to spare not to quickly strike. And given our intelligence reports of them preparing for a ‘quick’ strike, you did that with superior numbers.
            How do we prevent all this? It has to be diplomatic pressure under the threat of military force. Otherwise, we will be forced to make a call on unleashing a heavy payload on the Chinese while they are in transit. This is also a very risky decision given, what could be argued, a pre-emptive attack on China being a formal declaration of war against the them. Quite positive the US doesn’t want this to be their primary military strategy.
            All that said. I didn’t miss the point. You missed the point. Since you made mention of going to war, you should lead from the front. If you are already a military decision maker, then please dear God, study your strategy before engaging in conflict. If you are yet another blogger that is offering up American lives at the expense of your own confidence, then save it. I’m tired of our citizens offering up me to go to war…and I’m quite positive I’m not alone in this category

          • Regenz

            If Europe had made its resolve clear, and bulked up quicker, Hitler would’ve been forced into only an Eastern front which would have obviously been a big help.

          • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

            Or maybe he would have done neither?

          • Snaproll

            Germany did attack East. England and France then attacked Germany from the West.

          • Bleakmage

            If you call what they did an attack.

          • ahorvath

            After watching Obama cave to Syria and Iran and betraying our allies in the Middle East, Japan should be very concerned that in the event of an attack by China, the US will not honor its defense treaty with Japan.

          • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

            I wonder how many people it took to tell Obama to stand down in Syria. That would have been a tragic mistake of epic proportions. Aside from an act of war, what would he have done after a few missiles were lobbed at Syria? Was he ready to commit 40,000+ troops on the ground to look for WMD? That is the estimated amount of troops it would take to adequately administer a program of that scope; and that’s not in a shooting war.

          • Dan Tandan

            little noticed article pointed out that it was the NYTimes editorial board in a discreet meeting with obama at the time, helped to ‘educate’ obama as to his irrational red line statements about Syria.

          • jackcandobutwont

            All bobo had to do was deny that he ever said anything about a line in the sand!! COurse that was on video, but bobo was able to lie his way outta even that…thanks in large part to a media that would rather be quislings than do their job!!

          • Tish

            Bathhouse barry will be far too busy watching his unreleased copies of game of thrones & true detective ,, after all we peasants have to wait until the new season starts..

          • Tish

            Neville Chamberlain, Barry Soetero… you say potato, i say pototo !

          • P_Ang

            Don’t need to. There are plenty of video-game playing, non-working pot heads that need to start repaying some of that welfare money.

          • LaCrika De TuMai

            All the pot heads I know have jobs.

          • Regenz

            I volunteer you

        • Will setag

          What do you base your assumption Japan is most capable? They have been limited by treaty after WW2
          And China does have nukes.

          • La Familia

            China would nuke a small island? I don’t think so. Besides Japan treaty with the U.S. states any nuclear attack on Japan is considered an attack on the U.S.

          • H. G.

            China will not nuke Japan. They will call their buddy in NK for that.

          • StUdio

            Japan has already nuked itself (Fukushima) all China needs to do is to aggrivate the deadly reactor cores toxic depopulation program in progress

          • tex a montana

            Obama has demolished our Armed Forces both intellectually and materially. Competent military leadership has been purged and replaced by boot licking dolts such as CJCS Gen. Dempsey. Capital equipment such as ships and planes have been scrapped and not replaced. If China attacks Taiwan, The Boy King will only sit the our White House with a big banana stuffed in his face.

          • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

            And that idiot “Ghengis John” Kerry blathers on about global warming being the greatest threat (in Indonesia!)

          • Ryk E Lee

            And that would be Reggie Love’s banana?

          • Bobby Brady

            he dont roll like that-he likes Michelle his beautiful wife and mother to his beautiful chidren, everybody on the View say that he is crazy about Michelle, look at her arms fool

          • southern tom

            …DO YOU really think the present administration would honor that treaty?

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvcgovz9J40 Toothless

            I would imagine that China would attack Taiwan first. The Chinese just see Taiwan as a rogue colony that has yet to be reunited with the mainland.

          • Johnny Graf

            Are you like living 15 years ago? Taiwan and China basically have merged their economies. China already took over Taiwan’s economy and banking system. They do not have to attack anymore.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvcgovz9J40 Toothless

            Well, I’m sorry for not being as well educated as you. I was only one year old 15 years ago.

          • Kermit29

            And that “treaty” would have exactly how much value with the current regime? Plus the media would treat it how?

          • Bobby Brady

            They don’t know who they is messing with with our Comandeer in Cheif, the Honorable Mr Obama. All you peoples that put him down cause he black gonna see what stuff this man is made of. He is the Kobe Bryant of Politics.Many of you dont deserve him, but rest assure you are in good hands anyways.

        • luvbach1

          In other words, it’s the old: Peace through strength.

          • Sean Torres

            “war is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength”…

        • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

          But will we honor our treaty with Japan and Taiwan? That is the million dollar question.

          • drattastic

            Honor isn’t in this administration’s vocabulary.

        • southern tom

          …SOUNDS reasonable, but we no longer have a “strong presence” in the region… nor can we project such a presence for any extended period of time…

        • michael james

          The U.S. government is bound by the Constitution, yet they break their pledge to it everyday. What makes you think they will honour their treaty to Japan?

        • jackcandobutwont

          I think most folks are not worried bout the US breaking any treaties, rather those other country….

        • William

          Who really cares if they get into a “furball”? Why not just leave them to it? Why does the US always have to step in and muddy the water?

          • Beazz

            Because not only do we have a mutual defense treaty with Japan, but they are genuinely one of our closest allies and trading partners as well as the worlds 3rd largest economy. Japan and South Korea as well are vital to the economy of this country so therefore our national security as well.

            Both are strong democratic nations with very well trained military forces being bullied by China. We must, and I am confident we will defend both at all costs!! To make them stand alone could risk control of the entire Pacific falling under Chinese control which would destroy our economy and in turn force us to the then possibly have to go it alone.

            China cannot defeat the USA. But the road to victory would be a lot more costly without SK, Japan and the USA working together with the US having access to the facilities available from our allies fightin along side us.

        • A. Nuran

          Because China wants nothing less than to invade the United States. Yellow Peril II: Nuclear Boogaloo

      • Dustin Bonham

        When was the last modern war China was involved in? Oh, yeah, never. They’ve always just been a spectator. They learned to copy military weaponry so have an impressive arsenal. They’ll of course also have to copy modern warfare methods if they ever try to get really aggressive. Well, run along now matty, I know it’s fashionable to extol the virtues of China and what a great society they supposedly are. No matter that people can’t even BREATH in their capital city. The other canard is how they have us by the financial balls. That’s a laugh. Their entire economy is based upon sending cheap manufactured goods to the U.S. and a few other western nations. We stop buying, they’re done for. Oh, that “debt”, well, see, if they decide to mess things up around the world through stupid military actions, that “debt” will disappear. Not that simple? Yeah, it is.

        • La Familia

          China is no where near ready to take on the U.S. military. Modern warfare necessitates having a somewhat educated population that can be trained in the use of modern weapons. It does not as yet have the Navy for a major war.
          China’s educated population numbers around 300 million people who are all clustered on China’s southern coast.
          The other 700 million rice growing peasants are spread out throughout China and could probably not be trained to handle anything more sophisticated than an AK-47 or a grenade launcher. So the Korean War strategy of human wave assaults is no longer an option. To put the rice growers in front of a computer screen would be a useless exercise.

          • http://archive.bebo.com/c/photos/view?MemberId=8666554129&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=10506053464#photoId=10506053469 Bridgette

            They don’t want to fight us, yet. But they will take those islands, and the US, (Obama), will do nothing.

            Watch.

          • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

            Unfortunatley, I agree. But as I mentioned above, the key to this is not necessarily military–it needs to be on the table too–but creative use of other elements of our national power, mainly economic; including revoking student visas so they can’t continue to steal our technology.

          • William

            And who really cares?

          • Evan

            this is why they want to take our guns away…no one will ever be able to stage an invasion of the US without the use of WMDs because of the 100+ million gun owners…no other country has that many trained gun users

          • William

            Who it “they” that wants to take your guns away? Use your words.

          • Evan

            kind of ironic…What’s the meaning of “Who it “they” that wants…”

          • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

            How long would Congress have the stomach for a fight with China after the first carrier killer hits one of our platforms? Moreover, since any war would also likely involve other dimensions–e.g. economic, cyber/infrastructure–how long do you think it would take for our short-sighted population to cry uncle when their iPhones don’t work and they can’t play Angry Birds? I truly hate to say it, but unless there was a decisive victory, very quickly, I don’t see that patience lasting very long. And what would define victory?
            It would be smart of our policymakers to use economic leverage with PRC. They need us more than we need them. If there was bold, decisive policy to incrementally–but very publicly–turn our business back towards the western hemisphere, that would get their attention much faster than military action. They think long term.

          • William

            “Modern warfare necessitates having a somewhat educated population that can be trained in the use of modern weapons.” You mean unlike the Taliban? US policy objectives met in Afghanistan – 0. Ground now controlled by the Taliban and allied Haquani Network – 50%.

          • meibanfa

            You are missing about 500 million people from the population. I have lived and worked in China. The people in the cities are well educated and hard working. There is a large uneducated population, but the well educated is much higher than 300 million. I would guess at least two times and maybe three.

            China also has the problem of 30 million males between the ages of 18 and 40 that have no possibility of finding a wife, much less a suitable wife (well educated, from a good family). Half of that 30 million would make a pretty impressive army, even if they only have an AK-47 and two magazines.

            In the end, it is just a numbers game. There are 1.38 billion Chinese, possible more with undocumented births. There are 330 million Americans. If IQ’s are evenly distributed across both populations then they are going to have plenty of people intelligent enough to work weapons systems.

          • Evan

            understood, but my point was that there are more gun USERS in the civilian population than all other countries

        • jin

          Wrong. China loan u money to buy their products. Financially, u are at their mercy. China just needs to stop buuing US debt. Usd plunges, Rmb skyrockets. Now everything becomes cheap for the chinese. And so they can produce stuff for their own consumption.

        • Tkerri1

          There were 57,000 American dead in Korea, mostly from Chinese troops.

          • Prelusive007

            What do you mean “were”? If they “were” dead, they’re still dead.

            Just because some of them vote Democrat does not mean they are not dead.

          • Julian

            oh yeah that may have happened, but it wouldn’t have if they would have let MacArthur do what he wanted and invade them properly

          • Theodictus

            He wanted to do more than that.

            He was one of history’s biggest and worst narcissist/,megalomaniacs.

            Peleliu was not necessary.

          • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

            Ummm … that’s why it happened.

          • A_leader

            Ummm… No it’s not.

          • Bartman

            36,000 troops which includes cold, heat, North Koreans, fratricide, as well as by the Chinese. China did invade Vietnam in 1979 in the type of out in the open warfare we wanted such as Ia Drang, Tet, where we punished the NVA militarily. The Chinese on the other hand got a major nose bleed and were embarrased by the battle tested Vietnamese Army.

          • Beazz

            Wrong war. Vietnam had 58k KIA. Korean war had ~36k KIA. Chinese had 225k+ KIA and had we listened to a certain general named McArthur, there would have been millions of dead Chinese and NO Chinese problem now!!

        • Godels Proof

          hhh

        • luvbach1

          They did have quite an involvement in the Korean War. Their main tactic: human wave attacks.

        • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

          PRC did a pretty darned good job in Korea. Excellent OPSEC and were pretty much invisible until they went on the offensive.

        • William

          “When was the last modern war China was involved in? Oh, yeah, never.” How about WW2. Four-fifths of the Imperial Japanese Army mired in a massive guerilla war, Japan suffering 1,055,000 dead and 1,172,341 injured by their offial figures. Outcome was China – 1, Japan – 0.

        • Old Guy In Stanton

          Excellent analysis. Let me add a few points.

          China got their butt kicked by **North Vietnam** when they got frisky on the border just after we left South Vietnam.

          Yes, China and Taiwan are closer economically. And any attempt by the PRC to invade Taiwan would be iffy; the Taiwanese should not be underestimated. An invasion would not be a cakewalk.

          China is historically good at defense, mainly by absorbing attackers who simply disappear into the interior. However they historically have no stomach for extended offensives.

          On the other hand, due to the One Child policy and cultural preference for boy children, there is a growing huge surplus of single young males in China. This creates instability. A traditional way (everywhere) of dealing with too many fractious males is to expend them in wars.

          Also on the other hand, China’s need for oil means that they *will* eventually exert a terrific amount of pressure, possibly including military action, on nations in and around the reputed oil reserves under the South China Sea.

          Interesting times….

        • bubbasayswhat

          The Chinese can do what the Russians did in WWII, just keep sending them in, more troops, cheap tanks, just keep sending them and sending them. The Germans ran out of gas and bullets, but the damn Russians kept on a coming!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001014849544 Mike Alan

      sorry mate but Japan has no shot

    • http://archive.bebo.com/c/photos/view?MemberId=8666554129&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=10506053464#photoId=10506053469 Bridgette

      Only if the US honors it’s treaty with Japan, and I bet Obama doesn’t.

      Want to bet against me?

  • Matt

    Our failure to revoke our invitation to the RIMPAC exercise sends a very weak message. There must be consequences to these grave provocations or China will keep pushing the region towards war. China perceives real weakness in Obama and Obama is proving their perception correct at every step from Scarborough to the ADIZ.

    • Jason Cullen

      And what consequences must there be for the grave provocations of the US in the Middle East and Central Asia? Of course none. Just like there are none for other great powers, like China.

      This isn’t weakness in Obama, although you probably drool every time you put the president down. The weakness is in our own bloated-yet-over-stretched armed forces.

      • weed

        For people like you, your friend is whomever is the enemy of the United States.

      • Matt

        No. Not really. But Chinese leaders are probably drooling and definitely seizing territory taking fully advantage of certain clueless Americans.

      • Dennis

        We haven’t stepped on any “super powers” toes in either of those region’s, that’s the difference between the USA and China. As for Obama’s foreign policy, does he have one? It seems as though Obama doesn’t have any skin in the game and he does appear indecisive and weak. .

        • Bob USAF(ret)

          China does what is best for China; I do not believe Obama does what is best for the USA.

          • M_J_S

            Obama does what’s best for Allah aka the pig.

          • La Familia

            You don’t recognize pretense when you see it? Do you have any idea how many people have been killed in this world while that man has been in office? They run the Obama Won’t React Act and people die. Today we add Venezuela and the Ukraine to the list of where people are dying.
            Go look at the photo they have headlining the Drudge Report. It’s our President eating a watermelon snow cone. That’s photo is not an accident.

            This weak President just signed an Executive Order that allows the Homeland Security Director to take over this nation’s entire means of production and resources upon a President’s order. The last man to be given such power was General Marshall at the start of WWII. General Marshall completely controlled the American economy during WWII. My Dad was working in a small factory that made fireproof doors at the start of WWII. He told me how a man who worked under General Marshall simply walked in one day stating he was from the government and asked the owner of the small factory “What do you make here?” When he was told steel fireproof doors he said “Not any more as of today you are making depth charge racks.” and he handed the man the plans how to do it. Dad enlisted and went off to war but his Uncle Lou made depth charge racks for the next 4 years and the government supplied the materials.

        • La Familia

          Obama is weak? Obama is a front. This nation just built the largest intelligence gathering machine the world has ever seen called the NSA and is quickly developing laser weapons. Reports are we may be putting super laser weapons in space. Area 51 really does exist. It’s a massive weapon research center. Every 10 years or so they pop out another new weapons system and we all say “How did they do that?” We have brought an estimated 30 million immigrants into this nation over the past 35 years who they can make citizens and therefore eligible for the draft with the stroke of a pen. The so called anchor babies are now in high school and college. Sounds very similar TO THE 1930′S U.S. POPULATION.
          Did you think Hillary is going to walk into the White House with nothing more than her D—in her hand and have to cow tail to anyone? Trust me Hillary doesn’t bow she demands others bow to her. No my friend Hillary not only wants to be President she wants to stand next to Queen Elizabeth I and Queen Victoria in the history books.
          Obama will be sent off to Hawaii (Surprise China Do not Threaten Hawaii former President Obama lives there) and on January 16, 2017 Hillary and Bill along with the “A” team will take the field. China already is fully aware she is RUTHLESS. Make that cunning and ruthless. What
          China does not know is what will be in the desk drawer of her desk in the Oval Office.

          • molonlabe

            Smart White Boys are responsible for the weapon systems we have.The Dumb 3rd worlders we allow in should all be deported.

          • Destroy the orcs

            Maybe a used cigar from her husbands stay at the whitehouse?

            “Geee this smells like monica honey”

          • Steven Carnick

            Ummmm it is the fault of Old billy bob the Chinese have half of the weaponry that they do today. The Clintons are a joke. This country is in serious trouble if they get elected again!

      • Bob USAF(ret)

        If the armed forces is bloated how can it be over stretched and what are your credentials?

        • MJBinAL

          Unfortunately, it is possible to be both bloated, and over-stretched.

          I am not an authority on our current military structure, however, we are generally postured to use moderate boots-on-the-ground counting on technology to be out “force-multiplier.

          In a conventional forces conflict this may not work out, resulting in high costs (bloated) but over-stretched (insufficient boots).

          I don’t know this is the case, but it is possible.

        • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

          Politicians push bloated pork-laden projects on the DOD, but that has nothing to do with the reality of what our military needs to compete (platforms that are looking 10 years out rather than todays fight). It is truly a disgrace for the kinds of deals that get negotiated in Washington–including stupid boondoggles like the “Climate Defense Fund”–to reward administration boot-lickers.

          I also do not agree with his other assertions. Consequences for the grave and unprovoked attacks within the US and on OCONUS US soil (our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania … and hopefully soon our consulate in Benghazi) should be swift and massive. Anything less sends the wrong message to our adversaries. However, we–the west–need to learn how to adapt better to the 4GW threats we are facing and not rely as much on traditional military operations to fulfill national interests. Regarding China–If our national leaders wanted to, there are very smart ways to utlilize soft elements of national power to acheive our ends. That option was/is not always available to us with the Jihadis; particularly after 9/11.

      • bob

        Bloated but overstretched? They cannot be both…which indicates you know nothing of what you opine on.

    • La Familia

      China’s problem is not just Taiwan and Japan. It is also nations such as Indonesia, Vietnam and Thailand. Before China attempts to establish hegemony over the Pacifica and Asia they had better think on the consequences long and hard. They could find themselves over extended very quickly.

  • Dan Hossley

    If the pictured Coast Guard boat is representative of the threat, then we can sleep in.

    • Arctic_Fox

      Sorry, but the ship in the photo is not representative of the best Chinese tech. Chinese yards are building many excellent hulls, with up to date combat systems — the best tech China can buy, borrow or steal from the US-NATO-Israel-Russia and more.

      • Jack Frost

        Same “quality” as harbor freight merchandise!

        • H. G.

          Kind of agree about the shoddiness, but the ships don’t have to last a 100 years, just good enough for an attack.

    • Rotorwash

      It is a huge threat when you consider that likely thousands of these type vessels would be arriving along a giant coastline and King Obama and friends are incapable of reacting.

      • delong

        They don’t have “thousands” of these. The PLNA has a total of 520 vessels, 120 of which are minesweepers.

        • Rotorwash

          You do not think the Chinese are capable of packing overwhelming numbers of AK-toting assaulters into every type of boat imaginable and swarming a small island nation?

          They sure are capable of that.

          • delong

            If you consider 127 million people to be “small,” which I don’t. The inescapable fact is that any Chinese invasion force is a sitting duck out on the water, which is the singular reason China has not invaded Taiwan in sixty years.

          • Rotorwash

            China has not invaded Taiwan in sixty years because the US, the most powerful military on the planet was backing them.

            That is not likely the case anymore.
            Taiwan is going to be left on their own.

        • akabillybob

          Given that China now possesses the largest industrial base on the planet, I would think that they could ramp all those factories in days to produce weaponry to slaughter us.

          • delong

            Gosh, why haven’t the Chinese thought of that and invaded Taiwan already? Maybe you should write them a letter.

          • Sam Quint

            We have the nukes. Thank the Lord we have the nukes! So no, there will not be any slaughters.

  • 2IDSGT

    Until China has an answer for Japan’s submarine force (let alone that of the USN), it’s a no-go. “Area-denial” can work both ways.

    • Roven

      True that. Although China’s modus operandi is increasingly one of disruptive technology to counter traditionally superior force. Take China’s DF-21D ASBM. Does it neutralize the force projection of US carriers? (No one knows. But maybe.) As for anti-sub technology, China’s naval academy in Dalian was bleating a while back about “genetic algorithm” UAV tech which was “highly effective” at sub neutralization. Is it true? (No one knows. But maybe.) Maybe they’re on to something. Maybe not. But even if China’s nascent military technology advances turn out to be paper tigers, the point is that traditional force superiority may not translate into deterrence if China believes strongly enough. And knowing the power of the State press in China, the chances of that are high.

      • La Familia

        Does China have a jet fighter that can take off from Indiana and I minute later site a target and shoot it down from thousands of miles away?
        No it does not.

  • PX

    I would welcome seeing CHina really try to attack. THis would give Japan and the US a legitimate reason to destroy all of China’s inferior military “technology” and shut it up for a while.

    • La Familia

      It would also lower the national debt by a couple of trillion dollars.

  • calfiatlux

    Why do I not feel threatened by the rusty, pathetic-looking landing craft in the photo…

    • Hal Jordan

      Because you’re not a Japanese civilian standing on that beach.

    • Jack Frost

      I think they sell those at Harbor Freight for $199 with a coupon.

  • AnotherBrian

    But, but, they’re our trading partners……

    • Mitchell King

      Germany’s biggest trading partner before WWII was,,,, France

      • AnotherBrian

        Yes, my comment was premised on it being rather sarcastic.

        As far as I’m concerned, the People Republic of China is the enemy and we must keep that in mind at all times when dealing with those assholes.

  • caesar

    Who cares? Let the Japanese handle their own problems.

    • Mitchell King

      Not sure if we want to give the Japanese a free hand in east Asia. Didn’t work out all that well last time,,,

    • JLR

      If the USA did not make it so they could not have a standing military (just a defense force) after WW2 Japan might be able to handle this problem.

    • Proud_NIMBY

      The establishment military-defense contractor complex cares — the more fear they generate, the more job security & promotion opportunities there are for military personnel, and the more orders for defense hardware there are.

    • caligula

      it’s everyone’s problem. japan is the only place other than China with copious amounts of heavy rare earths (dysprosium, terbium, europium,
      and ytterbium) that are used in ALL of our new technologies from civilian goods to military hardware.

      you do not want China to be the sole distributor of these goods. they’ve already imposed enormous trade restrictions on these metals almost forcing companies to build production facilities there instead of importing the materials – that’s where your factory jobs are going. basically China is running a monopoly on the most valuable metals on earth, and want to stamp out the only other competition.

      i’d usually agree with you, but China needs a wake up call.

    • Rotorwash

      I believe nearly 95+% of the worlds batteries are manufactured in Japan.
      It is a big deal.

    • Ned Baughman

      Idiot

  • EDWARD MENZIES

    They call it Lebensraum.

  • albertG

    More evidence of the complete failure of Hillary Clinton’s tenure as sec of state. At least (for her sake) the pompous John Kerry is on track to meet or exceed her incompetence.

    • Prelusive007

      All Kerry would have to do to exceed Hillary’s performance would be not fall down somewhere.

    • 13strigoi

      Well Kerry can award himself a purple heart for dodging imaginary sniper fire.

  • david

    Continued weakness displayed by the current toothless administration will only encourage more of this behavior, in China and elsewhere.
    While the administration travels abroad to hype global warming concerns, our adversaries are arming up to challenge us.
    This will be an issue for the next administration to quickly correct.

  • cecil91

    China has a superiority complex dating back to when Confucius was a corporal.

    • They call me “Laowei”

      Actually it is a manifestation of an inferiority complex.

    • La Familia

      China also remembers what the Japanese military did to her people in the late 1930′s.
      Go read the book the “Rape of Nanking.”

      • Middletown

        i was thinking the same, the Japanese were merciless against the Chinese and they will never forgive it.

  • Rotorwash

    Our allies will likely be struck by China in the near future…

    And our Internationally-Pathetic King Obama has made our military unavailable.

  • Jack Frost

    The last time these two went to war, it didn’t end well for the Chinese… except for the thousands of lucky women in Nanking that got to experience some “Nippon Love”.

    • Rotorwash

      The last time these two went to war, Japan actually had a powerful military.

      • Jack Frost

        Yes, but this time, emperor Obammy has Japan’s back!

        • Rotorwash

          No he does not.
          Obama would be “unavailable” if combat arose between the two.

        • randyo99

          He won’t do anything. Except make his tee time.

          • They call me “Laowei”

            And play video solitaire

        • Bob USAF(ret)

          Don’t think so! He doesn’t even have OUR back.

      • delong

        Japan is ranked as the 10th most powerful military on the planet. It has better equipment than China, to boot. The Chinese will find it very difficult to cross the East China Sea with Japanese subs blowing their troop transports out of the water like sitting ducks.

        • Rotorwash

          The massive numbers China could throw at Japan would be overwhelming.

          Quantity, not quality.

          • They call me “Laowei”

            But who has The Mandate Of Heaven? Remember the Kamikaze…..

          • Rotorwash

            Another time, another generation…

            that fighting spirit is mostly gone now.

          • They call me “Laowei”

            Was referring to the Kamikaze or “Divine Wind” that sank two attempts of Chinese fleets sent against Japan.

          • Rotorwash

            Yeah, I think relying on devastating weather is probably not a good military strategy.

          • H. G.

            Uh, that was the Mongols. History much?

          • They call me “Laowei”

            Uh, Kubli Khan ruled China. Pedant much?

  • potusWORTHLESS

    China will piss off to many of their asian cousins!
    They WILL ALL turn against china!

    • Rotorwash

      No they won’t.
      There will be no large-scale Asian military response.

      • petaluma

        Correct. The rest of Asia (excepting the rather courageous Philippines) are complete wusses. They don’t care much about being overrun… at they won’t care much until their cultures are essentially DELETED from existence by china.

        • Rotorwash

          And of course it will somehow be the fault of the US.

        • H. G.

          Courageous Phillipines? Spaniards, Japanese and the US have owned them. And Manny is only courageous when he is on roids.

      • potusWORTHLESS

        Did not say there would be a military response!
        They still, will turn against china!

        • Rotorwash

          And do what?
          Post nasty letters of disappointment at the UN?

          It will not matter to China.

          • potusWORTHLESS

            LOL, your right!

  • Mathias Orange

    All paid for by the American consumer buying their shoddy products since 1972!

  • Scott Stein

    China is a third-world country at best… and if Americans would stop enriching them….

  • Jack Frost

    President Hillary will know what to do if these two start to fight.

    • jerseydave

      Yeah, let everyone die, then blame a Youtube video, and go back to sleep. (After being praised by all the major papers and TV channels for her leadership)

    • Bob USAF(ret)

      That’s right! She will say “what difference does it make?” Secondly, to show she is a leader, she will accuse the Chines of being sexist , racist and homophobic.

      • Rotorwash

        …and anti-Asian.

  • phil

    Take the islands first then Taiwan!

  • stevenskane

    Because of the Japan/U.S. Mutual Defense Treaty, an attack on Japan is an attack on the United States. It is hard to believe that China wants a shooting war with us. It is more likely that they believe that Obama is very weak and would not honor the treaty. Unfortunately, they are probably correct. In any event, China always has a hidden agenda.

  • jerseydave

    100 years ago all the nations of Europe thought they would win a short, “sharp” war. This led to WW1. In 1941 the Japanese Empire figured they could win a quick war against the US and several other nations and it led to the Pacific theater of WW2. China’s Government needs to realize they do better selling iPads and all kinds of other stuff and that war is a completely stupid idea.

  • caligula

    here’s the deal….Japan is the only place other than China with copious amounts of heavy rare earths (dysprosium, terbium, europium, and ytterbium) that are used in ALL of our new technologies from civilian goods to military hardware.

    you do not want China to be the sole distributor of these goods. they’ve already imposed enormous trade restrictions on these metals almost forcing companies to build production facilities there instead of importing the materials – that’s where your factory jobs are going (and your technologies stolen).

    basically China is running a monopoly on the most valuable metals on earth, and want to stamp out the only other competition. let’s turn a blind eye, shall we?

    • jerseydave

      Not to mention that China wants Japanese territory, all of Taiwan, Filipino territories, Vietnamese waters, Malaysian waters, etc. – And success will make them keep pushing until there is a war, pushing everyone until there is a fight. See Europe, 1938-1939. You cannot appease them.

    • ReluctorDominatus

      I would disagree with you as to the monopoly on rare earths. The Us has substantial deposits and actual mines that are ready to re-start on a moments notice…as soon as the EPA gets out of the way.

      • caligula

        you can disagree. i like thinkers. note that i said “heavy” rare earths. you’re right that we have the Mountain Pass rare earth mine, which contains rare earth elements. however, the only heavy rare earths that can be mined there are ytterbium and europium in tiny amounts. China and Japan have the ability to mine huge quantities.

        Australia has a little bit of dysprosium, but 99% comes out of China, and terbium is almost exclusive to China.

        • ReluctorDominatus

          I too appreciate thinkers…and your adjustment is well received. At the same time I am not convinced that China has overcome their “backward” status as an emerging modern economy (technologically speaking) per Gerschenkron. The conflict being contemplated is just over the horizon and I’m of the mind the Chinese rare earth holdings will not make a difference.

  • Dennis

    If we go to war with China does that settle their portion of our debt? I read yesterday that China was selling off some of our debt to European countries.

    • jerseydave

      If we boycott trade with China their economy is toast. They should consider this before a war. (Yes, and we could also write off all our debt to them if they did something really nasty.)

      • Rotorwash

        Our no-nut president and congress will not cancel any of our debt, regardless the Chinese crimes.

        • jerseydave

          Sadly I lost a lot of faith in our government since 1989 when George H. W. Bush pushed through Most Favored Nation trade status for China right after the Tiananmen Square massacre. DC seems to worship Henry Kissinger’s policy visions too much to notice priorities have changed since 1972.

  • Bruce Logan

    China had become extremely arrogant. They will not win any conflict.

    • Dewreck

      They are a fortress, and a fortress is easily taken care of.

  • WorkingMan

    As China strengthens, the US weakens. Our enemy isn’t in China so much as in the halls of power in our own institutions. Everything is weakening and deteriorating at an exponential rate. Military readiness? Gone. Unit cohesion? Too focused on gays in the military. Ammunition procurement independence? The US is losing that too thanks to the EPA and other alphabet-soup agencies.

    The US rots from within, the communists and one worlders dreams of “the long march through the institutions,” having been realized and the march pretty much completed successfully. Our demise will be self-wrought and come from the inside…China–in a few short years–will have only to kick in the door and watch the whole rotten edifice collapse. And unlike with the Germans vs the Soviets…this time the Chinese have reason to feel confident.

  • WBCarson

    Once China is finished with upgrading their military and giving them combat experience Russia had better start taking notice. Once they are done in the South China Sea they will look West. Just like they have unfinished business with Japan, their long memories will turn to Russia

    • jerseydave

      Russia and China almost had a nuclear war in the 1960s. Similar stuff, Mao decided he wanted some of Siberia and the Russians objected.

      • randyo99

        And wasn’t his reasoning something along the lines of, go ahead and nuke us, I can’t feed half my people anyway? A great and caring leader.

        • eyesjamesq

          Thank gawd we have Obama, he never renigs on his word.

    • Dewreck

      Russia and Mongolia should be very concerned, Russia has resources, China needs Resources. Taking Russia makes far more sense if China wants to expand.

  • Danceswithdachshunds

    Great, so we could end up fighting on Okinawa all over again but this time – defending the Japanese?

  • eyesjamesq

    Obama will not stand up to the Chicoms and the Japanese will suffer the same fate as Saigon.

    • Dewreck

      Good lord, Japan is not Viet Nam!!!! They are perhaps the most technologically advanced country on the planet.

      • eyesjamesq

        When Japan discovers Obama has hung them out to dry it will be.

        • Dewreck

          I just love the “China is going to take over the world” nonsense, they can barely feed their population, get a grip.

          • eyesjamesq

            No thanks, you seem to have the grip down.

          • Dewreck

            For a Zappa fan you lack wit.

          • eyesjamesq

            I didn’t agree with you would be honest but you lack honesty.

          • Dewreck

            Perhaps a typo? Or is formulating a coherent sentence something you’re unable to do?

          • eyesjamesq

            Honestly, OK, you are superior and are brilliant beyond understanding, feel better?

          • Dewreck

            I should be…being a dental floss tycoon and all…

          • eyesjamesq

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          • Dewreck

            I see you’ve got your buzz on…good for you!

          • eyesjamesq

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          • Tom Taylor

            Perhaps you should “get a grip!”
            What country has the second largest economy as of 2013?
            How exactly do YOU interpret the US economic trends? Do you think we will suddenly reverse course?
            Do you think the US is still driving political and economic events the same as in 1950?
            China is poised to become the leading economic and political force on the planet. Anyone betting against them is a fool…or worse!

          • Dewreck

            The resource they have, the only resource they have is cheap, and in some cases slave labor, this isn’t remotely sustainable……but go ahead, place your bet.

  • Bill Morissette

    The U.S. trains for war with almost every country in the world as a full time mission. China has every right to train in any way they see fit.

  • MarlagoFS35

    Just because you dress up someone in a uniform does not mean they can fight and win a war. China is a lot of hot air

  • Vasco DeGama

    if they start a war, bomb 3 gorges dam. end of conflict.

  • bigbiz2

    The Western world is toast..big time…China builds cities that are left empty just so its people have something to do.They would love to get involved in a military conflictJust like FDR did with WW2 ..Got him outta horrible domestic pickle…Remember nothing is made in America including our medications..which in turn means we don’t have the ability to make anything cause all the factories have been shut down.Oh and dont forget all the food we buy from China nowdays.. One month of no trade with China and the US would collapse ..without firing a shot

    • http://disqus.com/WilderNapalm/ Wilder Napalm

      That’s a two way street. Loss of trade with the US would destroy the Chinese economy as well.

    • Sam Quint

      China needs us to buy their product. If China ever decided to attack, its their economy that would be the one to collapse. On top of that, we would stop payment on any of our debt that China holds. China ain’t gonna do a thing except flex their muscles. Posturing is all they have.

    • disqus_4vB9Ee9jjt

      That is what China wants… the big psych job. They could not go toe to toe with USA today maybe in the future but not in the near term. The Chinese annihilation would make Iraq look like a playground fight… the stars and stripes would be flying over Hong Kong in no time…

      • bigbiz2

        Better hurry up cause our rules of engagement will soon be that we can’t kill the enemy…hurry

  • hun555

    nonsense…

  • pinksmoke

    History has the memory of an elephant. China has not forgot about the atrocities committed by Japan to it’s people.

    • Guest

      Yet they forget that the US helped them during that conflict. Odd.

      • pinksmoke

        “Forget”..how so? I’ve been many times and I can’t say I’ve recognized any forgetfulness about the USA during WW-2. Because of the severe form of communism they sunk into following the war, they thought more about our support of the Taiwan government though.

  • stevenskane

    Looking closely at the photo of the “amphibious landing” exercise being conducted by Chinese forces (I will not insult the U.S. Marines by referring to them as “Marines.”), I am not particularly impressed. The soldiers appear to have stopped at the water’s edge after they emerged from the obsolete “Higgins boat” type landing craft. Many seem to be standing around chatting and others are occupied with three small boats whose role in the landing is not apparent. Needless to say, in any landing on a defended beach, these befuddled troops would be slaughtered very quickly. Amphibious landing tactics have evolved significantly since the 1944-style attack depicted in the photo. I have no idea what other systems or tactics China might possess to throw at the Japanese, but, based on this photo Japan should not be terrified of Chinese forces attacking beaches.

  • day_in_the_sun

    Capitalist will sell the rope, which will be used to hang them. China would be nothing without capitalist selling out to them.

  • http://disqus.com/WilderNapalm/ Wilder Napalm

    Paaaalese, China is fully aware that any military action against Japan would mean war with the US.

    • Dutra

      I seriously doubt that. Obama is the waffling wildcard.

    • JeffC

      No doubt we would “go to the mat” and send John Kerry to straighten China out.

    • Bruce Gregory

      Why do you think the Chinese have undertaken such a massive military buildup? Conventional, nuclear and anti-satellite weaponry to counter our capabilities. I don’t expect the Chinese to make a move on Japan and Taiwan until they feel they possess the capability to thwart our intervention. That time will come and the Chinese are predicting we will blink. Oh, there will be bluster from our side about what will happen if the Chinese cross the proverbial red line in the sand (heard that before), but the Chinese will be prepared for a response if it happens and they will take us on with a vengeance if necessary. They think long term. They know they will survive, we won’t.

      • SolidBro

        Think about this. Just the US Navy’s attack subs alone can shut down all shipping through Chinese ports. End of China’s economy.

    • Buckwheat

      …or they could just dump their $1.5 million in US Treasury reserves, destroying the US dollar and US financial markets,…game over!

  • La Familia

    The people of Japan should demand their government apply for Statehood. Japan would be a fantastic 51st State.

    • GuidoFL

      HA ! Then we would be sending them BILLIONS in aid !

      • La Familia

        We owe them over a trillion dollars.

  • LethalLily

    Japan should cede control of the Diaoyu Islands back to it’s rightful original owners as stipulated by the San Francisco treaty.

    • disqus_4vB9Ee9jjt

      Wrong and then the argument can be made that we need to cede all of America back to the Native Indians… wake up man.

    • SolidBro

      The San Francisco Treaty states that the Senkaku Islands are Japanese.

  • La Familia

    So China wants to go island shopping. We all know the reasons for that. The Japanese especially know the reasons for that. Every major battle in WWII in the Pacific theater took place on an island.
    Why? Airstrips.

    • H. G.

      Airstrips? I thought it was coconuts.

  • bluzrider

    It looks like China is getting ready for anybody, and everybody. They have been flexing their musels now for quite some time.

    We don’t need to be drawn into any squabble they have with Japan or anybody else for that matter. Absolutely nothing good can come from that.

    We have our own problems with China, lets just stick to that. If we get into it with them, let it be because our problems with them and nobody else s.

    • disqus_4vB9Ee9jjt

      An attack on Japan is the equivalent to an attack on American soil. We have signed treaties as such… China knows this and would not dare or risk an open war with the USA… We then would not have to worry about our debt or treasury bonds they bought… we would take reparations directly from that… so let the Chinese go for it…

  • Reggin

    The cracker with the brain tumor ..Hillary
    or
    The n i g g e r with the best medical system in the world …….Nelson Mandela …

    Which one goes toe to toe with a couple billion yellow prison factory workers ?

  • potvin

    Isn’t Japan an ally of the U.S.A.? An attack on Japan should lead to terrible consequences for China, but would it? With King Obongo at the helm I’m not so sure.

    • GuidoFL

      Would the US risk WW3 over some Japanese islands ??? I don’t think so ?

      • SolidBro

        No risk. The US simply blockades Chinese ports. End of China’s economy.

        • TxFalt

          The end of ours as well, but if we came to that point I would imagine the economies are already in the shitt3r

  • Sam Adams

    China attacking an ally is an attack on all allies.
    That is not negotiable and China knows that.

    • arctic_front

      True!… unless you have NoBama as C.I.C. Then all bets are off. Sadly.

  • ReluctorDominatus

    The Chinese military= a target rich environment and a interdiction/logistical nightmare on land that would have them consuming themselves. This is not 1940 and mass movement, and concentration, is a thing of the past; the perceived Chinese numerical superiority in numbers can be neutralized with a number of smart weapons aimed at key bridges a transport centers. After those strikes the numbers become a liability.
    And as Jane’s said of the Soviet Navy after Reagan’s buildup…the Chinese Navy would experience a short and exciting life.

    • GuidoFL

      Our giant carriers would have a very short life. Sitting ducks for a swarm attack by their rockets, sonic cruz missiles, satellite weapons, quiet subs, etc.!

      The Jane’s quote is from the early 1980′s not today.

      • ReluctorDominatus

        The analogy is correct. You are the one assuming that the US would float in a fleet or two as in times past. We have the technology and the means to cripple most Chinese systems before our carrier groups come over the horizon for the clean up. It is a different world but, save for political expediency, our commanders are quite capable of using our assets with extreme effectiveness.
        You need only ask yourself which receiving team you would like to be on.

  • TheLibertyDefender

    I’m sure they’re also planning on a US attack as well. After all, they’re going to want their money back at some point. God knows we can’t pay it back without crashing the dollar. Under Obama’s rule, our allies don’t respect us, and our enemies don’t fear us.
    Welcome to the progressive USSA.

  • kirok

    As China is growing in strength, our loser leaders are trying to downsize our military to be that PC feel good service. Our military is politically ruined every time. Politics and war never mix well. You are either going to win or lose. It is as simple as that. if China decides to fire nukes at us, would the DC elite have the stomach to do the same. Well I can answer with the fact that our idiot and chief is trying to downsize the US nuclear stockpile. This is one major factor that has kept us as a super power in the world. Are we to repeat history where we dismantle our fighting strength to the point where we get overrun on our fronts as we did before WW2?

  • Freedom

    China training for war with Japan……… Interesting. A big country like China
    picking on a small country like Japan. The only thing I see here is what is
    not printed. O is hiding under the bed. O’s disastrous world peace plan is
    the worst of any President we have every had. Stupidity comes to mind in
    spades…………..

  • zagnut64

    You could look it as payback for the kindness the Japanese showed to the Chinese in the 1930′s and 40′s.

    • Freedom

      You could say that but today’s generation in both countries were
      not around. The only thing you can blame here is the memories
      of the past. Or my grandchildren die for what my forefathers did…
      Not good.

      • zagnut64

        Don’t be fooled, the Chinese have long lasting memories and patience.

        • Freedom

          I’m aware of that…..It is their ideology that will let generation
          of people die for what happened in the past. Our biggest
          problem to keep them at bay is in the W.H. He is hiding
          under the bed as this is going on.

          • NonPartisan_Partisan

            Out on the links in plain site

          • zagnut64

            He is not on this country’s side, never has been. He is nothing more than the love child of a pothead, and that’s all he sees in the mirror each and every day. He blames this country for his history. Progressives are nothing more than liars and pickpockets.

          • Male Man

            That is exactly what he is….A stoner and an America hater…

        • bob smith

          You mean the Chinese have an effective propaganda system. They were not anti-Japanese during Mao’s era.

          This insane nationalism began when Deng Xiaoping decided to scrap socialism and convert China into capitalism. Without the socialist ideology the only unifying ideology the CCP could claim was nationalism and specifically anti-Japanese nationalism.

          So no the Chinese do not have long lasting memories. They construct a history and narrative that is useful for their purposes when they see fit.

  • Johnny Graf

    Is there is not a thing the US will or can to about it short of total destruction unless the US using nukes and it will not do that because China now has more than the US.

    • SolidBro

      American navy and attack subs can totally shut down shipping via Chinese ports. End of China’s export economy,

      • Johnny Graf

        The Chinese have territorial disputes with pretty much all their
        neighbors, which a war with the US would give them an opportunity to settle once and for all. These disputes center over fisheries, territory and energy resources. Look up in youtube “Videographic: China’s territorial claims” for an excellent overview.

        China wants to push the US out of Asia, which they are capable of doing. The Chinese have:

        - An entire army group of hacker geeks ready to wage cyber warfare which has routinely hacked into our networks for decades.

        - The demonstrated capability to deliver anti-satellite weapons on
        target which means they can blind us, cut our communications and collapse our economy.

        - They, along with Iran and Russia, have super-cavitating torpedoes. We don’t have this tech, nor a defense against it. While our torpedoes travel at about 50 knots, these torpedoes travel at 250 MPH. They don’t touch the water as they travel in a cocoon of bubbles and are capable of ripping a carrier in half from the kinetic energy of the impact alone, even if the warhead fails to detonate. You cannot maneuver or deploy countermeasures against these torpedoes.

        - They have an anti-ship ballistic weapon, the DF-21. We also don’t have this tech nor a defense against it. These ballistic specifically designed to attack our carriers at stand-off ranges of
        1500-2000 miles. Our carriers will not be able to operate in the
        western Pacific, much less get into range to launch airstrikes when warheads rain down on the battle group with pin point accuracy and at thousands of miles an hour.

        - The Chinese acquired from Israel advanced military technology for over a decade now, including advanced L-band missile interceptor radar systems. Awesome allies them Israelis.

        - When we deregulated export restrictions on 5 axis milling equipment (thanks conservatives in Congress), the Chinese got the tech to mill silent submarine propellers. Prior to this, their screws were noisy and easily detectable. The first lathes to leave our shores went to China and within a couple of years, they replaced the screws on their entire submarine fleet. If you want to know what they can now do, google “The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced” If we get into it with China and their subs sink our warships, remembet to thank a conservative for
        pushing for deregulation.

  • natgrenadine

    Here’s how the war will go:
    1) China invades the islands
    2) Obama and his State Department offer sharp words
    3) ….(nothing)….
    4) Hillary campaigns on Chinese funds

    • eyesjamesq

      Then they order take out from Ben Wonged.

  • paisa71

    The Chinese have territorial disputes with pretty much all their neighbors, which a war with the US would give them an opportunity to settle once and for all. These disputes center over fisheries, territory and energy resources. Look up in youtube “Videographic: China’s territorial claims” for an excellent overview.

    China wants to push the US out of Asia, which they are capable of doing. The Chinese have:

    - An entire army group of hacker geeks ready to wage cyber warfare which has routinely hacked into our networks for decades.

    - The demonstrated capability to deliver anti-satellite weapons on target which means they can blind us, cut our communications and collapse our economy.

    - They, along with Iran and Russia, have super-cavitating torpedoes. We don’t have this tech, nor a defense against it. While our torpedoes travel at about 50 knots, these torpedoes travel at 250 MPH. They don’t touch the water as they travel in a cocoon of bubbles and are capable of ripping a carrier in half from the kinetic energy of the impact alone, even if the warhead fails to detonate. You cannot maneuver or deploy countermeasures against these torpedoes.

    - They have an anti-ship ballistic weapon, the DF-21. We also don’t have this tech nor a defense against it. These ballistic weapons are specifically designed to attack our carriers at stand-off ranges of 1500-2000 miles. Our carriers will not be able to operate in the western Pacific, much less get into range to launch airstrikes when warheads rain down on the battle group with pin point accuracy and at thousands of miles an hour.

    - The Chinese acquired from Israel advanced military technology for over a decade now, including advanced L-band missile interceptor radar systems. Awesome allies them Israelis.

    - When we deregulated export restrictions on 5 axis milling equipment (thanks conservatives in Congress), the Chinese got the tech to mill silent submarine propellers. Prior to this, their screws were noisy and easily detectable. The first lathes to leave our shores went to China and within a couple of years, they replaced the screws on their entire submarine fleet. If you want to know what they can now do, google “The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced” If we get into it with China and their subs sink our warships, remembet to thank a conservative for pushing for deregulation.

    • Johnny Graf

      Paisa71, great post, when I read it I felt I wrote it…………..everything you put into it I have said in the past and you may be too smart for those who still believe the US is superior over the world militarily. You left out “the great underground wall of China”………..China now has more than 3000 nukes in comparison to the US down from 7,200 nukes to 1,540 meaning the Chinese is more of a Nuclear superpower than the USA is now.

      • paisa71

        It’s an even bigger problem than just China. The Russians are looking to reassert their dominance over the old Soviet republics, in Europe to push up against NATO and in the Caucasus to get control of energy resources that are being transferred to western markets without the Russians getting a piece of the pie. They also want to take control of the Arctic for its energy resources.

    • Nita Shafer

      The Chinese do not need weapons to defeat the US, they can, easily, destroy the value of the US dollar and collapse the US economically.

      • SolidBro

        No they cannot. As of last month, China’s total holdings of US treasuries is $1.23 trillion. The Fed is buying US debt and mortgage bonds at $800 billion a year already, and they were buying $950 billion a year last year. If China tries to sell the US bonds, the Fed will buy them all up and China will take a huge loss on the bonds. FACT.

      • GrumpyOne

        Not exactly for if the US economy were to collapse, so would the world economy and that INCLUDES China and they know it.

        OTOH, the weak ineffective leadership here is not an asset in our favor…

        • paisa71

          Most wars throughout human history have been fought between nations that have strong economic ties. The idea that “their economies will suffer so they won’t fight us” is a false notion that evidence contradicts. In both WWI and WWII, the main participants were each others main trading partners. It all comes down to a calculation of “what we have to gain vs what we stand to lose.”

  • Prelusive007

    Since a war with Japan would also lead to war with America anyway, we should go ahead and occupy those islands right now. Force their hand. If the Chinese can not already recognize the implications of attacking Japan, they would if they saw the American flag on the islands.

    • Nita Shafer

      The US will NOT defend Japan nor Taiwan nor South Korea. The US is an impenitent ex-world power trying to manage to collapse of the Empire.

      • Prelusive007

        With Barack “the pathological liar” Obama at the helm, nothing would surprise me at this point. Nothing.

  • ahorvath

    After watching the Obama administration cave to Assad in Syria and to Iran and betraying our allies in the Middle East, China is convinced that Obama will not honor our defense treaty with Japan. They may be right.

  • Nita Shafer

    Got to be a bogus report, EVERYONE knows China is our Allly

    • Haaywood Jablomie

      China isn’t your ally; they’re your daddy.

  • Buckwheat

    Hey Fannell, you work for a government that no only gave China the means to produce the military they now enjoy, with it’s implementation of giving China most favored nation status, but at the same time made that possible by gutting American heavy industry. Go cry wolf somewhere else, bucko! You gave them the means to become a threat, and now you warn everyone of the threat,…? Blow it out your blow hole!

  • rodg

    All you need to do is watch Chinese news. It is really banging the drums against both Japan and obamaland. Now if it happens, which side should you support? obamaland will support and deny each. Sell arms to each side while it denies any weapons to the American troops.

  • La Familia

    How much oil, natural gas and coal does China have? Answer. Whatever they have imported. Jets don’t fly, tanks don’t roll and ships don’t sail without fuel.

    • Freedom

      Hummm……They could use Coal….dump Coal into the jets….Now
      that would be worth watching……

      • La Familia

        Coal can be converted to oil and then jet fuel.
        Thank you President George W. Bush

        Coal can also be used to produce energy to run one’s war production materials factories.

        China would give it’s right arm to have our coal deposits.

        By the way did you know that our ships did run o coal during WWII. Alaska has a very special type of high burning coal. Roosevelt had General Marshall build an entire Alaskan railroad to transport that coal at the start of WWII. That railroad is still operating today. Guess where the coal goes? Correct China.

        • SolidBro

          Too bad it didn’t work well enough for Germany, whose tanks ran out of fuel in the Battle of the Bulge. Once Germany lost the Ploesti oil fields in Romania, they were doomed.

    • paisa71

      That is why the Chinese want to control the South China Sea and the East China Sea, which have large energy deposits and they are building a pipe line thru Pakistan to be able to get Middle East oil overland and not thru the easily blockaded sea routes.

    • Buckwheat

      How much…? as much as Iran can send them

      • SolidBro

        Good luck getting the tankers past the US attack subs in the Straits of Malaca.

        • Buckwheat

          They also have oil purchase agreements with Rosneft, a little Russian oil company, which is about three times the size of Exxon/Mobil.

          • SolidBro

            But no way to get the oil from the central Asian republics to China except via tanker leaving Black Sea ports and sailing through the Dardanelles in Turkey – an easy chokepoint.

          • Buckwheat

            They’re building pipelines as we type,…one east and one west!

          • SolidBro

            LOL – even better. A pipeline is static and impossible to defend. Good luck with that pipeline across Afghanistan and Pakistan. Fun to build, even more fun to defend. ONE nuclear weapon or even just a dirty bomb destroys the pipeline and makes repair impossible due to local radiation.

          • Buckwheat

            You’re a flag waving fool. You sound like this vaunted US military destruction of pipelines in Russia or Chinese tankers in the Straits of Malaca is going to be happening while we’re all blissfully sitting back watching the Superbowl or America’s Got Talent… it’s not! If what you describe happens, they will retaliate.

          • SolidBro

            Who says the US will do it. Japan can get any of a dozen terrorist groups to do it for them with a pilfered Pakistani nuke. Just a few Yen and it’s a done deal.

          • Buckwheat

            I can tell you’ve never been in war. Now you sound like the good folks running the government at the NSA, State Dept, and the Pentagram

          • obama_drama

            Guys a regular living James Bond movie ehh =)

        • Buckwheat

          Do you actually think the Iran sanctions are about Iran trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No, they’re about preventing Iran from selling their oil outside of the US dollar(petro dollar). Have you ever noticed that any nation which tries to sell its oil in some other currency(ie. Iraq, Libya, Iran) gets branded a terror nation by the US and/or then blown to bits?

          • SolidBro

            Yawn. Yes, the sanctions are about nuclear weapons development. The US is but one party to those sanctions – the rest of the nations all agree with the UN sanctions. Iran can always take the dollars they get for oil and immediately swap them for any currency or commodity they wish. It’s very easy. If they want to hold the money in Shekels, it is easily done in seconds on a foreign currency exchange market.

          • Buckwheat

            That’s the whole point…the entire US world reserve currency/ world trade settlement/SWIFT Code/ petrodollar is being rejected by nations in the east. They’re jettisoning it for a gold backed trade settlement system. Newsflash!..there’s no gold in Ft. Knox. It’s gone…pilfered. Everything that’s happened from Iraq to Libya, to Syria, and even now to Ukraine is about preserving the world dollar trade settlement system. Everything else is flag waving, attention diverting noise.

          • SolidBro

            Take off the tinfoil hat. When you claimed there is no gold reserves in Fort Knox, it was clear you are off your meds.

          • Buckwheat

            Get you head of your butt…the last audit of Ft. Knox was in 1954. The Germans asked to see their gold held in storage in 2012 at the NY Fed and were basically told to go pound sand. They were told they could repatriate 300 tons over the next seven years…seven years! They’ve only received 5 tons back since their request over a year ago.

          • obama_drama

            Really? Ask the Germans how their repatriation is going. China is going to announce their gold reserves somewhere around the 24th of April, it just might be very interesting to find that they have a huge surplus that will cast a weary eye back to the fed when people realize China can’t have that much, and the US fed the ammount it supposedly has at the same time (there just aint much of the stuff to go around and someone will have “some splaining to do”). You should probably do some research before you call people conspiracy theorists, all I see is a conspiracy aint no theories in this one.

          • Buckwheat

            I’ll bet you every nation that’s a party to that sanction agreement has each individually received currency swap lines from the US Fed since 2008.

  • karl

    No-one, including us, EVER found the Japanese a easy walkover. China may start a war with the Nips but China WILL NOT like how that war ends.
    An old Marine.

    • fingeronthetrigger

      Nippon Jins nippers are gonna be the victors cause they already know they have nothing to loose cause Fukushima is their disaster that keeps on giving and a little more nuclear radiation from some nukes going off is not going to matter.

    • eyesjamesq

      Like they didn’t enjoy how Korea ended or Vietnam, an old grunt.

  • randyo99

    And the bonus, IF they won, and stayed, is Fukushima. What a prize.

  • Guest

    Japan would probably dismantle China’s military apparatus with it’s large fleet of mini drones.

  • Jim Stone

    Japan would probably dismantle China’s military apparatus with its large fleet of mini drones.

    • eyesjamesq

      The Chicoms have forgotten about Japan’s ace in the hole, Godzilla.

  • Haaywood Jablomie

    If China whacks Japan, you fools might have to start buying American cars again.

    • SolidBro

      You do realize that the Chinese PLA invaded Vietnam in 1979 and got their hiney handed to them by the Vietnamese, right? The Chinese only made it 70 miles into Vietnam and they were crushed in three weeks by Vietnam and forced back across the border, suffering 4.5 Chinese casualties for each Vietnamese one.

      The Japanese Maritime Defense Force would put the entire Chinese navy and coast guard on the ocean floor within a week. The mismatch is like the US Navy versus the Brazilian navy.

      • Haaywood Jablomie

        The PLA is big enough to invade and each Chinaman could own a Japanese slave. After what Japan did to China over the past 80 years, the Chinese owe them a serious whack.

        China-Viet Nam was like the YOUR Viet Nam and your current US actions – no guts, then retreat.

        • SolidBro

          How would China get their troops to Japan?

          They can’t even get them to Taiwan!!

          • Haaywood Jablomie

            Obviously you’ve never spent time in China.

          • SolidBro

            Yes, I have been to China three times. Now answer my question. How will China get their troops to Japan (or Taiwan) when the Chinese navy is on the ocean bottom?

          • Haaywood Jablomie

            Same way the chicken United States does – bomb the crap out of them for a week, then waltz through the streets.

          • SolidBro

            LOL – the Chinese can’t even get air superiority over the South China Sea – Japan has top of the line fighters (and more importantly BVR AMRAAM AIM missiles of the very best capability and range) and the AEGIS missile defense system. You are talking pure nonsense. Just garbage. Even in WWII, the US was doubtful we could invade Japan even when we had destroyed their navy and air force. The logisitics are unfathomably hard.

            And China is no match for Japan militarily anyway, and China’s logistics are nonexistent. They have no sealift nor airlift capacity to even invade Taiwan!

          • Buckwheat

            You still don’t get it, do you? China could sell its entire holdings of US Treasury reserves, about $1.5 trillion, and destroy the US bond market and US dollar overnight…plunging the US into a depression ten times greater than the Great Depression, and they can do it all entirely without firing a bullet, shooting a torpedo, launch a jet fighter…do you get it?

          • SolidBro

            You still don’t get it, do you – the Fed has been buying up bonds at $1 TRILLIOn a year via QE. If the Chinese want to sell, the Fed will let the prices drop and then buy them all up on the cheap while the Chinese take their losses.

          • Dontazemebro

            The Chicoms have Aegis destroyers. You really haven’t been paying much attention to China’s militarization, have you?

          • SolidBro

            Your posts make it abundantly clear that you have no military knowledge whatsoever.

        • SolidBro

          Um, no – the USA defeated the Iraqi military completely and the Taliban were routed. Unlike China, the USA has no problem destroying the enemy’s military – it is building a stable nation from unstable people that is the only problem. China got whipped by the Vietnamese military and could not control even a small area.

      • blagostwin

        That’s a very comforting thought, so why is China doing all this intimidation and saber rattling if they are that inferior militarily?

      • Dontazemebro

        1979? That was over thirty years ago. I believe the Chicoms were still riding bicycles and living in huts. Have you been to China, recently?

  • La Familia

    ” October 13, 2013

    Japan recently has been in the news as a result of several high-profile territorial incidents with its neighbor China. The incidents involve what Japanese call the Senkaku islands—the Diaoyu islands to the Chinese. Japan has legal ownership of the islands, which China disputes. The incidents have involved non-government activists and the coast guards of both nations, with many fearing an escalation could lead to some form of armed conflict.

    Spurred on by those developments, Japan has accelerated what have been until now quiet plans to develop a specialized unit of marine infantry. This force, mentored by the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps, is seen by Japan as essential in guarding the Senkakus, as well as other disputed territories. Like the Navy/Marine Corps team, the Japanese force will be a joint group consisting of the Ground, Air, and Maritime Self- Defense Forces, with everything from infantry to air support to the ships that carry them.

    The creation of the Japanese marine unit is part of a series of a wide-ranging overhaul of Japan’s ability to defend its borders. During the Cold War, Japan anticipated a Soviet invasion of the northernmost island of Hokkaido and built up forces there appropriately. With the collapse of the Soviet Union and the rise of Japan’s neighbors, particularly China, Japan has shifted attention from the far north to the far south, in particular the Ryukyu and Senkaku islands west of Okinawa.

    Specifically, Japan was concerned that activists from other countries with whom it has territorial disputes (countries including Russia, China, and South Korea) would land on Japanese territory and symbolically seize it, perhaps with weapons. Unfortunately these islands are on the periphery of Japan, without nearby military facilities, or even ports or airstrips. That necessitated an expeditionary force capable of self-deploying by air and sea to the periphery of the Japanese archipelago.

    Japan has no forces tailored to amphibious operations, since marines are typically considered offensive in nature and Japan has barred itself from having offensive forces. However, the ban was merely a self-imposed policy decision, and in 2012 it was decided that defense-minded marines, who would transport themselves to places such as the Senkakus in time of crisis to defend or eject interlopers, were legal for Japan to operate.

    Ground and Air Forces

    Based at Nagasaki in southern Japan, the Western Army Infantry Regiment (WAIR) has been tasked the amphibious mission. The location ensures that the WAIR can be quickly embarked on Maritime Self-Defense Force (MSDF) ships at Nagasaki/Sasebo; alternately they could board V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft at the nearby air bases of Nyutabaru and Tsuiki. The WAIR is considered only the core of a new marine force, which will be considerably larger.

    The WAIR is approximately of battalion size, consisting of at least three infantry companies. The regiment is equipped as light infantry, with the heaviest weapons being 84mm Carl Gustav recoilless rifles and French MO-120-RT 120mm towed mortars. The regiment has no vehicles except for Mitsubishi Type 73 light trucks. Japan recently announced it is procuring up to six AAV-7A1 amphibious assault vehicles of the kind the U.S. Marines use. Such vehicles would afford a platoon of WAIR troops armored protection up to and onto the beachhead.

    One company of the WAIR is sent every year to San Diego for the annual Iron Fist exercises. There they learn to conduct a variety of operations from the U.S. Marine Corps. Each year the exercises have grown progressively more complicated, starting with rigid-hull inflatable boat training to more recently conducting actual amphibious landings.

    Air support for the marine unit is currently in the form of helicopters from the 1st Aviation Brigade, headquartered near Tokyo. During the June 2013 Dawn Blitz exercises in southern California, Japanese AH-64 Apache and CH-47 Chinook helicopters from 1st Brigade crossed the Pacific on Maritime Self-Defense Force ships to provide air support for WAIR. Tokyo is currently exploring buying organic air transport for the marines in the form of up to 20 V-22 Ospreys, which would allow the unit to quickly self-deploy to the Senkakus.

    Under the tutelage of the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps, Japan is slowly but surely building up a credible, flexible amphibious force capable of responding to national emergencies. Highly trained with a high level of mobility, it could eventually become the equal of both. The force will not only be highly useful in Japan’s territorial disputes, it will likely be a excellent partner for their American counterparts in joint operations.

    • Male Man

      Thanks for the info…

    • BlairWasBest

      Too little, too late. It’ll all be over in a split second, and the US will simply do nothing

  • danshays

    All this is occurring while the entire political “professional” left is playing with its collective genitals!

  • SolidBro

    Those Chinese Higgins boats-style landing craft are so cute. Right out of a 1944 movie set. The Chinese military is now up to 1944 amphibious technology level. When the Japanese stop laughing, those boats will be blown apart before they get within 5 miles of the beach.

    The Chinese are so funny.

    • eyesjamesq

      Have you ever participated in a beach landing?

    • H. G.

      Not sure why China needs to do an amphibious attack on Japan. China can just blow up all of the nuclear reactors and Japan will wither away.

  • blagostwin

    Chinas been planning these types of actions for decades and we have enabled them to do it by turning them into the giant industrial complex they’ve now become. Thanks to economic policies like NAFTA, GAT and the WTO. Next they’ll be just off our shores doing the same thing to us. I hope Japan kicks their azz.

  • Smargalicious

    Meanwhile, our half-Kenyan reparationist leader and his sasquatch wife are targeting white people in the Tea Party and at Fox news with the DoJ and IRS.
    God help us.

    • H. G.

      Don’t disrespect the other Sasquatches in the world by calling Chewbacca that.

  • Elmo Fudginputz

    And, the corporate elite still push Chinese investments on all investors and demand higher Chinese imports into the USA. I’ve been boycotting China for 10 years. Obviously, you can’t boycott everything, but whatever I can find built elsewhere I will try to buy if I can.

  • E Pluribus Chaos

    The citizens of Japan have earned the right and the obligation to develop nuclear and thermonuclear weapons and their delivery systems.

    You can thank China, Bill Clinton, and President Owebama for a nuclear Japanese Military.

    • bigbiz2

      You can thank Clinton, Charlie Tre and Loral for Chinas multiple warhead missles..now unto neutralizing our satellites

  • Haaywood Jablomie

    There are a LOT of posts here indicating you don’t grasp that China has eaten your lunch. They will do what they want, and Japan and what remains of the US will beg someone to bail them out. Japan has the balls (look what they’ve done to the US) but too few assets. The US will apologize to China and send Meals-on-Wheels.

    • SolidBro

      Your ridiculous comments in this section show that you (1) are a PRC troll, and (2) you lack any military knowledge whatsoever. Your opinions are unbacked by facts and are nonsense. You sir, are a bad PRC troll.

      • Haaywood Jablomie

        Get help, ignorance is NOT bliss.

        • SolidBro

          How’s the air there in Harbin today, Xu? Can you see the other side of the street, or is this another zero-zero visibility day due to the smoke and haze? Just look out your window.

      • Haaywood Jablomie

        Hey Solidboy: I never said it would be a breeze for China, I said you’d have to start buying US cars again. ADD?

        • SolidBro

          Why could I not buy Hondas or Audis?

          • Haaywood Jablomie

            Buy whatever you want, but it will be from the US, Europe or Korea for 10 years.

          • SolidBro

            Why? – my Honda can from Marysville Ohio. China lacks the ability to blockage Japan, whereas the US (and possibly Japan alone) can easily blockade China.

            China cannot prevent Japan from exporting anything.

          • Haaywood Jablomie

            Your Honda might have shipped from Marysville, but it’s minority US content. Lowest of Asian brands are Hyundai/Kia (< 10%) and BMV and Mercedes are between 6-7 %. It's only understandable why "Americans" send their money overseas when you see what government has done to your "educational" system. If it makes you warm and fuzzy (like when you pee your pants) the Accord is mid to high 30's in percentage of US content.

          • SolidBro

            Yes, but Chinese are flocking to US universities because our universities are the best in the world. Do you know how many science Nobel prizes (not literature or peace) have been won by China in all of history? ZERO.

          • Haaywood Jablomie

            MUCH of Asia and India (and even goat humpers) are flocking to US universities…you’re correct! Then they go home for a job to produce products for the fat happy and stupid US car market and Walmart….well, virtually every consumer retail outlet.

          • SolidBro

            Fine – let them make our toys and pots and pans. We’ll make the software, aircraft, and high value-added cutting edge items. China can make the commodity items and race to the bottom against the Vietnamese, Indonesians, Thais, and Indians to se who can produce the cheapest plastic molded pot handle.

        • SolidBro

          I am unaware of any Chinese car makes sold in North America. I don’t see why I could not still buy a Honda or VW. And since many Fords are made in Mexico from parts made in Brazil, why would you think there is such a thing as a US car anyway?

          • Haaywood Jablomie

            Few cars are “made” in the US, but they are all US brands. You fools just send your money to Asia. Even I don’t know why Chinese cars haven’t infest your market like Japanese and Korean brands, which incidentally, ban virtually all of your industrial output.

          • SolidBro

            The brand is irrelevant. Ford stock is owned by Belgians, Japanese, and people from all countries. Honda stock is bought on the US exchanges as is Toyota and VW ADRs.

            These are all multinational companies. Where the headquarters are is quite irrelevant. Glaxo (ostensibly British) is actually domiciled in the Caribbean for its holding company.

            There are no “US carmakers” nor Japanese or German ones.

            Only a few Italian specialties like Ferrari and Lamborghini and Maserati are truly “Italian carmakers”.

          • Haaywood Jablomie

            The US had a somewhat viable auto industry until about 2003, but was diminishing. Now it’s 20% of the marketplace. (Consumer trucks down to 58%) If you desire to understand the basics, look up “fixed costs,” capital machinery and tools and dies. The auto industry isn’t all that’s toast; your entire vertically integrated manufacturing base is.

          • SolidBro

            From Wikipedia: “As of 2010, the country remains the world’s largest manufacturer, representing a fifth of the global manufacturing output.[27] Of the world’s 500 largest companies, 132 are headquartered in the US, twice that of any other country.[28]”

            And with only one-fifth of China’s population!

          • Haaywood Jablomie

            If that were true, why is your country DEAD? In the former US, a person is lucky to make $12-$15 and hour. I paid my secretary $12 an hour. 25 YEARS AGO.

      • arctic_front

        Solid: You assume that the great military might of the U.S. is going to win against China (or Latvia, for that matter) when you have B.H.O in command. That fact alone negates the superiority of the best bomber or weapon.

  • John Wayne

    China is preparing for war, period.
    They claim the entire south China sea and the further south they sail the more territory they claim as theirs.

    The U.S. continues to train China by allowing their officers to attend our military war colleges and special training ops.

    Their involvement in Cobra Gold makes no sense whatsoever. If the U.S. is appeasing, patronizing or Kow Towing to them, to let them know we have no ill intentions that is a dangerous game of Geo politics we are going or have lost.

    Trust but verify, and you have to be living under a rock to not see the Chinese are modernizing their forces for offensive operations. But with this lame duck administration I can see that.

  • WrenchMan

    Is it any wonder that ALL our enimies aren’t planning attack all our allies!
    They all know this feckless president won’t do a damn thing about it!

  • http://archive.bebo.com/c/photos/view?MemberId=8666554129&PhotoNbr=1&PhotoAlbumId=10506053464#photoId=10506053469 Bridgette

    So China moves on Japan – what will Obama do?

    A. Nothing.

    B. Tell them to stop.

    C. Applaud in Private.

    • SolidBro

      Another 18 holes and then off to a fundraiser and vacation on taxpayer dollars while Moochelle shops in NYC for $1000 sneakers.

    • H. G.

      D – A and C

  • John Wayne

    The Japanese are capable of defending themselves. They have a very modern navy and air force.
    South Korea needs to start spending more money of thier GDP on defense, unfortunately they get proxy help from the U.S by U.S. forces being stationed in South Korea.

    The best defense is the best offense and if left wing, tree hugging give peace a chance zealots think it keeps bad people away they are living in a fantasy utopia.

    Oh wait! they do live in a fantasy utopia, they live in the U.S. where we live in relative peace where they can spew out their dialog of fantasy under the protection of the U.S.

    I would like to see them try that in China. I think their is a reeducation camp with their name on it.

  • Antonio

    Yhr USA has 40 million negro in prison to worry about, and they cast stones at China for asserting the right to self determination. Hypocritical US politicians are running like headless chickens.

    • SolidBro

      Every black is in prison? Wow. So there are no black voters then. Come back and post when you sober up.

      • Buckwheat

        There’s plenty of blacks to vote…even the dead ones!

    • blagostwin

      Your prison number of American blacks are grossly over inflated. I wonder how China would treat them if they were there?

    • SevenofNine

      And I suppose the ones that are actually in the big house just got there by mistake or they were framed too…so says Antonio the brainless chicken!

  • martialmedia

    AND the Iowa national guard trains for war with 2nd amendment activists in the USA.

    • paisa71

      2nd Amendment activists? Are you referring to the extremists right-wing groups actively proclaiming to want to overthrow the Constitutional government? For the last 5 years, these conservatives have called for presidentialassassination, military coup, armed revolt, 2nd Amendment remedies, and secession. All because they lost a couple of elections. And they think themselves patriots and wonder why the government might be concerned about them.

      • Buckwheat

        A supporter of the second amendment of the Constitution, wanting to overthrow the Constitution…that’s as stupid as I’ve heard.

      • blagostwin

        Drinking that Alinsky koolaid again? How about leftwing extremists like you that want to destroy what’s left of the Constitution. To include the 2nd amendment, 4th and so on.

  • bigbiz2

    For the past 20 years the US threw Taiwan under the bus. Now Red China votes against the US in the Security Council ..Why? cause were afraid of the Red Chinese

  • bigbiz2

    Very soon Australia will no longer have auto plants there . An entire continent and no auto mfg…uh ..how much is they’re minimum wage?

  • Lex Loathar

    War is a racket and the last resort of scoundrels and incompetents. HEY JAPAN, CLEAN UP YOUR G#D D@MMED Fukushima MESS! They are still cooking away, but most of you here don’t realize that!

  • LaCrika De TuMai

    You mess with Japan, you mess with USA.

    • bill1942

      Says ………..? You surely don’t believe that Obama would stand by ANY ally. He’s too busy sucking up to the moslems.

    • BlairWasBest

      Unless BHO is in office

  • DJM2142

    Another chance for our Warrior in Chief to prove his incompetence

  • Robert Farr

    Tell the world you are readying to attack Japan but the reality is Taiwan is what they want (back) and Taiwan will be what they attack.

  • bill1942

    The Chinese had better watch out. Things did not go well for them the last time they tangled with the Japanese.

    • bigbiz2

      they have a billion people and nukes

      • SolidBro

        They had more people than Japan in the 1930s too. Didn’t help them. Nukes are effectively useless except as last-resort weapons and a gateway to total war. Besides, Japan has the AEGIS anti-ballistic missile defense system. If China tried to use a nuke for offensive warfare, they would be the object of international economic and financial exclusion and bury themselves.

  • J Kevin Brent

    Fannell needs to stop reading Chines Communist propaganda websites. China couldn’t make an amphibious assault in a bath tub.

  • Buypass

    My Oh My, Chinese gunboat diplomacy. And BO is the Dowager Empress.
    China can keep pressure on all of its neighbors and play them each against the other. Since most WWII memories linger in Asia, Japans the first target.

  • OutWest Landowner

    I bet they are ramping up this training so they can complete the attack on Japanese holdings in the South China Seas while BH0 is in office. They know he cowardly and has sufficiently weakened America that the US will not retaliate. Additionally, if they are successful in these attacks, Taiwan will be next.

  • Martin Luther 2013

    We helped China rise economically, making a grand strategic ‘bet’ that as China’s economy (and resultant middle class) grew they would become more oriented toward democracy. The idea, of course, is that in accordance with Wilsonian theory, Democracies do not fight each other. It was a race of sorts – would China achieve military and/or economic parity with the US before they became democratized (and become a direct threat to peace and stability) or would they become democratized before they were strong enough to threaten peace and stability. While the race is not yet over, the ‘horse’ we bet on is not currently in the lead. We better keep growing our economy (less taxes and government regulation) and keep investing in our military and in our regional alliances. Silver Lining: China’s growing power makes the US more popular in SE Asia every day.

    • Dontazemebro

      BS….it was about the almighty dollar….billions of Chicoms western capitalists could exploit.

      • Martin Luther 2013

        First, there are not BILLIONS of CHICOMs. There is about A billion, but I get your point.
        Second: MOST of them are really really POOR. We have sent a lot more dollars to them than they have sent to us (at least until the current administration elected try to spend us out of a recession…..(another failed or failing strategy), which means that we now OWE them a lot of money. Just more brilliance from DC.

  • SevenofNine

    The mighty Barack will lay down a “Red Line” and tell the Chicoms they cannot pass…hahahahahahah I just woke up from lala land.

  • Rocketman

    Who we need in the Oval Office right now is Ronald Reagan or someone similar, not this #@**^$.

  • BlairWasBest

    The sad part about all this is that BHO doesn’t care what the Chinese do, and most of the American public doesn’t care either, as long as the US doesn’t get involved. BHO would ignore any existing defense treaties because, as President, he can do whatever he wants. He answers to nobody, except perhaps, the Muslim community

  • Paul Roth

    Maybe we should send Kerry there with a reset button. That seems to have worked well before. We have bozo the clown for a president.

  • EEDDGGY1776

    China laughs at America today due to the pathetic “leadership” in place. They are just biding their time prior to taking us over.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvcgovz9J40 Toothless

      Obama is saying to the Chinese, “Yeah! Just walk right on in. I will disarm the population for your convenience.”

      • EEDDGGY1776

        Unfortunately, I have to agree with you 100%. The generations behind me have no understanding of China and what their intent is.
        China has worried me for over 50 years, even more so than the USSR did.

        • arctic_front

          The real problem with China is not so much their technological prowess, but the fact there is 900 million people in arms if it comes to a shooting war. To win such a war would require a genocide on a scale not many Americans would be willing to stomach. When the reports come in that millions of people were slaughtered in a single one-sided battle, there will be a population back home wondering if Japan, Taiwan or ANY place is worth the massive loss of life that will follow a ‘proper’ defence of our allies. This won’t be a lop-sided fight either. There will be casualties in the tens of thousands on our side too. China has shown it can deliver munitions into earth orbit against satellites we depend on. They proved that capability 10 or more years ago.

          You cannot underestimate them, by sheer force of numbers alone. A massive barrage of weapons against, primarily, the Navy would inflict thousands of casualties. The Air Force will fare much better, but sheer numbers favour them.

          Then, after suffering intolerable casualties, then the mass killing will begin.

          Nobody would win much of a victory when the toll of the dead is read. It will be like WWII in a few weeks, not years.

          The best defence is to show overwhelming strength and deterrence than invite aggression by the current void in foreign (cough, Cough) policy by the current squatter in the Whitehouse.

          The USA is regarded, or used to be, as the sole superpower. There is a very good reason what that title is very damned important. The C.I.C currently doesn’t understand the weight of that responsibility. It transcends his agenda, his goals and his administration. It is so much MORE than, and BIGGER than him. He is a weakling and our adversaries see it and scheme against us based on that weakness.

      • Boommach

        I would not be surprised if president Obama were to provide intelligence to the PLA. He needs the Chinese to continue funding our debt and his lifestyle.

  • Victory_for_Freedom_2014

    We have been sending the wrong signals to the PRC for far too long (all the way back to 1950 in Korea). Unless our president decides to make this a “year of action” when it comes to the PRC and provides decisive, emergent policy protect our allies in the region, they are going to get steamrolled. Since that will likely not happen, they will get steamrolled.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvcgovz9J40 Toothless

    China will just Zerg rush Japan. Many bases will be destroyed, and many mineral fields will be depleted. But then we call in the battlecruisers, and the Chinese are finished.

    • Dontazemebro

      lol….clown

    • SevenofNine

      Whatever! If the Japanese are in any real danger they will unleash their ultimate weapons, Godzilla, Gammara, Mothra, Rodan and all the rest!!!

  • Bruce

    China is a US ally. The Marxists in Washington DC will not defend Taiwan or Japan. Wall Street bankers built the Chinese economy and military for a reason, same as they did for the Russian Bolsheviks. Don’t be fooled by this propaganda and theater. The end game is a global communist slave gulag. The US is not a democracy. Your elections are rigged. Your news media is controlled by communists, and your government is a crime syndicate.

    • southern tom

      …THE USA no longer has any allies… we stand alone.

    • Ray Tort

      Worse. China has all our manufacturing facilities, including antibiotics. We try to defend Taiwan or Japan, China stops sending us medicine, and other necessities.

  • spider

    I have no problem with Japan, but in light of what Japan did to the Chinese during the war…I can understand that now that they are in a position to, a little payback is seemingly a long time in coming. Japan better be careful, China will no longer tolerate their arrogance, and at many times Japans population, China would destroy Japan, were it not for America. But China has nothing to worry about, because our current ‘moron in chief’, will probably be playing golf when it all goes down.

    • Fred

      Japan killed 10 million Chinese between 1931-1943

      • spider

        Precisely.

  • IdolHanz

    China must be watched closely. We need to increase our spying on them and we need to recruit more spies within the hierarchy of their government. At the same time, we must deny them access to our secrets and technilogical jewels.

    • southern tom

      …THERE is nothing we can do to deter China… if she decides it’s time to take Taiwan, then Taiwan is there’s… the same applies to the resource rich islands claimed by Japan, the Philippines, and Vietnam…

  • dont_bring_me_down

    i’ve long thought ww3 would start in japan. chinese are foolishly eager to test their might – which is only manpower. every technological advance has been stolen and still takes decades for implementation.

    the japanese were beaten to radiological detritus by the end of ww2 and ceded every last territory it had stolen back to the other regional countries.

    why on earth is china acting so belligerently? energy resources? …really?

    if they really wanted to be ahead of the energy curve, instead of invading for resources, put faith in your people to develop alternate energy….but they can’t. they can’t trust their own people (who are investing like crazy in other countries) to innovate.

  • Tish

    if the Japanese are even remotely similar to the Boshito code used during WWII, China is in for a long bloody battle. Unless of course

    they get impatient and hit the button !

  • jayballs

    Our Govt needs to STOP giving China what it wants!! Why let them be part of our military exercises? They will use what they learn against us! If Washington is too naive/stupid to see that than they will be in for a surprise.

  • Ray Tort

    It’s past time to repatriate our manufacturing.

  • Dimocrats=NewNazis

    This is what happens when you (America) projects weakness instead of strength.
    China will make a move, and barrack bin obama, will hem and haw, and try to sound strong, while acting (very) weak. Then China will know they can do what ever they want. By then, it will be too late to do anything about anything.
    barrack bin obama, sees this as “payback”, giving back to the chinese for past wrongs (that America hasn’t even committed). Plus, he wants a weaker USA, to somehow right some perceived past wrongs. Plus, when it comes to international policy, remember, his “expertise” was because he spent a couple years in Jakarta as a child. That was why they considered him a foreign policy “expert”. With international policy, he’s a bumbling idiot.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvcgovz9J40 Toothless

    Am I the only 16-year old boy in the entire country who understands the magnitude of this militaristic, aggressive Chinese regime, and just how dire this situation is?

    I hold out hope that I’m not. But I am probably wrong.

    • Tish

      You should be,, after all your next in line for a long drawn out bloody war !

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvcgovz9J40 Toothless

        Don’t remind me. I already have enough to worry about.

        • Dimocrats=NewNazis

          Like your grandkids financial debt to the country? Yeah, I’d worry about that too if I had kids.

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvcgovz9J40 Toothless

            I don’t want to have kids. The biggest reason is that I don’t want my girlfriend or wife to stomp on my heart when I catch them cheating.

          • Dimocrats=NewNazis

            Been there….. Gonna happen anyway. I think the trick is, to stomp on theirs, before they stomp on yours. Besides, who’d gonna make you that sandwich?

    • Dimocrats=NewNazis

      Probably. Hey! honey boo boo is on! Look, something shiny.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvcgovz9J40 Toothless

        Honey Boo Boo is a disgusting freak. It still baffles me how she got her own horrible TV show.

        • Dimocrats=NewNazis

          You missed the part about “something shiny!”…….

          I agree, but the whole country is distracted. The media, is the most dangerous thing in the country today. That mostly means the news, but shows like honey boo boo, are part of it.
          some, like the stuff they have on MTV (do they still even have an MTV?) are actually calculated, finely tuned devices designed to capture you and keep you watching. Kinda like the “programmed rock bands” they had. Not “real”,….
          All about getting inside your head, and “reprogramming” you and your thinking (and getting rich off of what you spend).

    • Eric Freeman

      If you’re 16, you’ve probably gotten everything you know about China from news sites or school; you don’t know anything.

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvcgovz9J40 Toothless

        I know plenty about China, as well as about their little puppet North Korea. I’m not as stupid as you think I am.

  • Chaddington

    We lost the war with China when forty years ago, Nixon opened them up. Then Clinton hammered the last nail into our coffin when he let them into the WTO and gave the Most Favored Nation status.

    After that, there was/is very little Bush, Obama, whoever comes after can do. They’re now the world’s largest manufacturer, the same title held by the UK during the British Empire, and the US after WW2. They’ve got $3 trillion sitting in the bank and have purchased large swathes of land in Africa, mines in Latin America, oil fields in the Middle East, companies in the EU, American debt, and are already slowing colonizing uninhabited land in the Far East of Russia.

    We were number one, but we blew it. Separated economics from national security. Got greedy, now we’re paying the price.

  • labillyboy

    I thought Bill Clinton’s wife had brilliantly headed off all international problems?

    Since we give China all of it’s money you’d think someone, like say… our President or Sec. of State might use that as a way to incent the reds to back off… I guess that is too difficult for the current occupant and his inept administration.

  • geezer_daddy

    And they said WWI would be a short affair. The fact of the matter is that Ideology and reality have very little in common. If China initiates a war of aggression it will unite every pacific rim country against them. Then we shall find out who the paper tiger is. One only has to remember back to the late 1970′s to see how the Vietnamese humiliated the Chinese.

  • michael james

    China just has to block energy imports in Japan and the Japanese would crumble within 45 days. China is the biggest holder of US debt and is buying up American assets at a very fast rate. Who do you think America will side with in the end? They are bluffing. GM sells more cars IN ShanghAi – alone – than they do in all of Japan.

    Japan and America arent as friendly as they claim to be.

    • cowboybob

      The American banks can destroy China. The American banks run the world and the U.S. as part of their empire. You know who runs the American banks.

    • Commonsenseconservative

      Once a war is won the winners debt will be wiped out and all assets can be taken as reparations as well.

      • michael james

        Who will then buy new U.S. debt? If the bigest holder of US debt is attacked and all the debts are cancelled, who would want to invest in US Treasuries afterwards?

  • rightster

    What a propaganda story. As if all powerful countries, including Japan and the United States, don’t train for offensive military actions

    • michael james

      America not only trains, they actually invade other countries based upon false evidence of weapons of mass destruction. America even kills its own citizens without providing them the right to trial.

      • Harry Obama

        America, F*ck, Yeah!!!

  • Eric Freeman

    It’s none of our business. If China wants to fight Japan, we should get our people out of the way and not interfere.

    • William_C_Diaz

      You are a lessron.

      Have a great day!

  • cowboybob

    Obama will give the Reds a stern warning if they land on the Japanese Islands. His warning will be that there will be consequences if there is armed conflict with Japan.

  • 1azuce

    Come on Barky, use your dry erase pen and draw a RED line. Then use your phone to call UpChuck Todd so he can tell everyone how wonderful you are.

    • paisa71

      Last time he drew a red line, Syria and Russia agreed to give up Syria’s entire chemical weapons stockpile without a single shot being fired.

      • 1azuce

        Live in your fantasy land. On Syria, Putin took your messiah’s milkshake and drank it.

        Palin tweet “I can see Putin’s shoe print on obama’s behind from my house.”

        • paisa71

          What did the US give up? What did the Syrians and Russians give up? How do those compare?

  • Gohta Takeshita

    Chinese [food] will be better when nuked [with a Japanese microwave oven].

  • 1azuce

    Chinese better watch out for Kikaida, Kamen Rider and Ultraman Leo.

  • Ho Li Kao

    Seems China’s very eager to give Japan permission to initiate “Rape of Nanking II: Pokémon Unleashed.”

  • paisa71

    The Chinese have territorial disputes with pretty much all their
    neighbors, which a war with the US would give them an opportunity to
    settle once and for all. These disputes center over fisheries,
    territory and energy resources. Look up in youtube “Videographic:
    China’s territorial claims” for an excellent overview.

    China wants to push the US out of Asia, which they are capable of doing. The Chinese have:

    - An entire army group of hacker geeks ready to wage cyber warfare which has routinely hacked into our networks for decades.

    - The demonstrated capability to deliver anti-satellite weapons on
    target which means they can blind us, cut our communications and
    collapse our economy.

    - They, along with Iran and Russia, have super-cavitating torpedoes.
    We don’t have this tech, nor a defense against it. While our
    torpedoes travel at about 50 knots, these torpedoes travel at 250 MPH.
    They don’t touch the water as they travel in a cocoon of bubbles and are
    capable of ripping a carrier in half from the kinetic energy of the
    impact alone, even if the warhead fails to detonate. You cannot
    maneuver or deploy countermeasures against these torpedoes.

    - They have an anti-ship ballistic weapon, the DF-21. We also don’t
    have this tech nor a defense against it. These ballistic weapons are
    specifically designed to attack our carriers at stand-off ranges of
    1500-2000 miles. Our carriers will not be able to operate in the
    western Pacific, much less get into range to launch airstrikes when
    warheads rain down on the battle group with pin point accuracy and at
    thousands of miles an hour.

    - The Chinese acquired from Israel advanced military technology for
    over a decade now, including advanced L-band missile interceptor radar
    systems. Awesome allies them Israelis.

    - When we deregulated export restrictions on 5 axis milling equipment
    (thanks conservatives in Congress), the Chinese got the tech to mill
    silent submarine propellers. Prior to this, their screws were noisy and
    easily detectable. The first lathes to leave our shores went to China
    and within a couple of years, they replaced the screws on their entire
    submarine fleet. If you want to know what they can now do, google “The
    uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise,
    leaving military chiefs red-faced” If we get into it with China and
    their subs sink our warships, remember to thank a conservative for
    pushing for deregulation.

    • QuM3

      hype,, yes they have a few toys we gave them and yes the DF-21 is real,, but its Nuclear tipped.. which means if they use it once, the game is on, and we would kill a billion of them in a day if that happened.

      • paisa71

        The DF-21 is not nuclear tipped. It is designed to strike with pin point accuracy. A nuclear weapon does not need to be as accurate to sink a carrier.

    • DJ

      BAHAHAHAHA…..have you seen the propaganda film for their “stealth fighter”?!!…..it’s a joke. If you lend any credibility to these alleged “new” technologies, and think we don’t have an answer, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

  • perseus317

    China knows by his past actions that Barack Obama would NOT honor our treaty with Japan if they (the Chinese) were to invade the disputed islands. Obama would bluff and bluster, but would do nothing militarily, and the Chinese know it. What would probably happen is that Obama would scold the Chinese with a strong speech, and John Kerry would negotiate to restore peace by surrendering the disputed islands, and then both men would declare victory.

    • paisa71

      Guess it wasn’t a good idea to subject our armed forces to a decade’s worth of attrition in Iraq and Afghanistan, huh?

      • QuM3

        Attrition?? The US Military has more skill sets and experience than any country on earth. China is a paper dragon and the US still has the skill, the equipment and the experience to handle them. Iraq and Afghanistan were nothing more than defence industry battlefield validation exercises. We learned so much and have advanced so far in the art of warfare because of playing there.

        • paisa71

          Practicing against a couple of 1000 jihadis with AKs and RPGs does not compare with fighting an armed force of millions armed with modern tanks, planes and nuclear weapons.

          • paisa71′s conscience

            We’re quite adept with our nuclear weapons as we had a previous Democrat President “practice” using them against another Asian country. Don’t underestimate Barry, since he’s the Original Muslim Brotha ‘Hood (OMBH)…

          • paisa71

            If we use nukes, the Chinese are fully capable of retaliating in kind.

          • QuM3

            And the hold MAD concept assures that China is not going to be a player in the South China Sea.. Their DF-21 is never going to be used so it is useless in the argument. And the US and Japan and Taiwan would not ground assault China.. We don’t have to. Its a Naval exercise and China looses.

  • sferrin

    “The U.S. is also continuing to work out plans for the Chinese navy to participate in the Rim of the Pacific 2014 (RIMPAC) exercise later this year.”

    Christ we’re stupid/naive.

    • AnotherBrian

      Rimjob would be more like it…..

      We can’t trust these jackasses as far as I’m concerned.

  • Tim

    It is as simple as street fight ethics.
    When a man is fighting a man, you leave them to work out their differences no matter who you are friends or sympathize with.
    When someone jumps in anothers fight it is cowardly, criminal, juvenile and pathetic.
    This is how gangs operate.

    • paisa71

      Did you learn that from a “Geopolitics for Dummies” book when you were home schooled?

      • Tim

        Pardon Genious?
        Did you have anything intelligent to add or question to ask?
        I was raised in top private schools and have more knowledge of our global-political system then you have an understanding of provocateuring.
        Thomas Jefferson- “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none”.

        • paisa71

          And your parents paid tuition to schools that taught you the US should not honor its treaty obligations? Can they get a refund?

          • Tim

            Thomas Jefferson- “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none”.
            No they sent me to schools that studied the Constitution. You are thinking of the public school indoctrination YOU enjoyed as a young lad.

          • paisa71

            Except of course we haven’t practiced the first part of that since before we opted to go down the gunboat diplomacy route at the beginning of the 20th century.

        • William_C_Diaz

          You are an knee biting stump jumper with the brain of a cabbage…

          Have a great day!

          • Tim

            How utterly expected and mondain.

    • William_C_Diaz

      You are a lessron and thankfully you and other ignorant troglodytes like you will never be in charge of anything.

      Have a great day!

      • Tim

        Replying to old post over and over troll? Oh i will be in charge all right. In charge of shipping everyone of you federal keyboard agents to north Korea as a sign of good faith after the restoration of our tyrannical government.

        You have failed to get our guns troll even after staging 20 children’s death. Now when the collapse does happen you will have 300 million gun owners serving arrest warrants on all of you who broke your oaths. NSA included.

  • MrThroatpunch

    We have a weapon China will listen too if we want to stop them from attacking Japan and on one dies. If I was president as soon as I heard about any hostilities I would sign and executive order inposing a 1000% tariff on all Chinese junk coming into the USA, and then Tell Treasury to STOP all interest payments to china on the $2.5 trillion we owe them. That should get their attention real quick I bet. Then I would put the country on Def Con 2 and wait!

  • LLeone

    The answer is simple…It’s time for Japan, Taiwan and South Korea to reveal the worst kept secret in all of Asia…They all have nuclear bomb programs in the basement…With some assembly required…But if they’re unwilling or unable to come forward…We should deploy 150 nuclear tipped cruise missiles to each country until they are ready to announce and complete their own programs.

    What’s destabilizing is that only China–and North Korea–her pet pit bull–have nuclear capability…And so they both lose the right to complain if their neighbors seek the same level of deterrence….After they all go nuclear–then they can sit down and discuss arms control and more friendly patterns of international relations…Until then, China is a bully that faces no threat of a bloody nose for her bullying.

    • rightster

      Why should they sacrifice their populations eating up Chinese missiles?
      Who has China invaded in the last 40 years?

      • LLeone

        This is the same strategy we successfully used to bring the Soviets to the bargaining table in the 1980′s…It’s called peace through strength…We deployed nuclear tipped cruise missiles and Pershing intermediate range missiles among our NATO allies to counter their advantage in theater weapons and nullify their enormous edge in heavy armor.

        In this case, if China’s intentions are peaceful–they have a funny way of showing it…But if their intentions are hostile–the only way to defend against them is to match them…Tit-for-tat…Until they see that their own house burns down in any aggression on their part. Otherwise they just get more aggressive.

        Besides, if a podunk and belligerent nation like North Korea can arm itself with nukes–why not Japan, Taiwan or South Korea? These are stable, peaceful democracies…And the right of self defense is guaranteed in the UN Charter…If they want to play rough then it’s time we got tough….Negotiations will soon follow…Bet on it.

        • Michael Ng

          MORE NONSENSE!!!

      • commandergreen

        China communists took over the country from Taiwan.

    • William_C_Diaz

      Yes, every single technologically advanced country in the world has ‘breakout’ capability, but have refrained from making weapons because of the ‘protection’ offered by the US.

      Have a great day!

      • LLeone

        You too, Will…It’s just not everyday a total Lefty wimp like Obama has to decide between Taiwan or Tokyo for Los Angeles….Oh, I’m sure he’s up to the task…I just doubt the idiots that are running his foreign policy are.

        And you totally ducked my point…Peace through strength worked very well with the Soviets–why not China if they start acting equally badly with their neighbors?

  • realister

    If Japan bought up a bunch of Wal-Mart’s, china would not touch them

  • bevus

    With a weak President of the USA, why not! first this then Taiwan! Obama just threatens, every time he opens his mouth he makes himself and the USA more of joke.

    • rightster

      When we withdrew diplomatic relations with Taiwan, withdrew all US military forces, and unilaterally abrograted the Taiwan-US Mutual Defense Treaty, it was because we said there was only one China, and we recognized the capital of the one-China as Beijing.

      • William_C_Diaz

        Um, no, but nice try dummy.

        Have a great day!

  • WALLSTSEVEN

    Stop helping to train these communists already…………….

  • homie

    Let them continue the military arms race, and get them to buy more US T-notes to manipulate their currency, then nullify them all in one go and China will be TOAST, just like the USSR in late 80′s!

  • oiadsfadsf

    Lets make this swift and brutal

  • NSSA3Way

    How ironic…and here we are conducting joint military exercises with them.

  • Fred Clement

    FUBAR!

  • Frank_100

    It is cheaper for China to let Japan develop the resources and buy the oil on the open market then fight a war. If China has a war, it will be to distract all those men with no chance for a wife due to China’s disastrous one child policy.

  • http://i1.cpcache.com/product/323509833/fuck_obama_dark_tshirt.jpg?color=Black&height=460&width=460&qv=90 Ricardo Queso

    As long as the current phuxtain is infecting the Offal Office, Japan and Taiwan, and any other country that has a legal claim to the South China Sea’s oil is twisting in the wind and cannot depend on the U.S. to lift a finger to help them against China.

  • natgrenadine

    This comment was removed earlier, which speaks volumes:

    Here’s how the war will go:
    1) China invades the islands
    2) Obama and his State Department offer sharp words
    3) ….(nothing)….
    4) Hillary campaigns on Chinese funds

    • William_C_Diaz

      You are a typical, ignorant GOP shill, you have nothing of consequence to add here, go crawl back under your rock.

      Have a great day!

      • natgrenadine

        Fyi: I’m anti-GOP, dumbass.

  • 1azuce

    So thin skinned. Mocking the messiah not allowed here.

    Praise obama, greatest president ever. Slayer of deficits. Teller of truths. Period.

  • eyesjamesq

    My goodness, it seems these moderators are in hissy fit mode, losers.

  • Jerome Besson

    The US needs extricating itself from a deleterious conundrum – strategic ambiguity – of its own making. May it dawn on the executive that it holds the key to the issue in the long buried Treaty of Peace with Japan. The catch is in that long obfuscated “principal occupying power” role in regard of US-occupied Japanese Taiwan.

    Once an international treaty has been approved by congress as the SFPT was on April 28, 1952, it is law on the same footing as the Constitution. If the US is serious about upholding the rule of law in regard of the international commons, it should preach by example. Move them, bases, from Okinawa to Taiwan.

    Sorry for resources-poor Okinawa, but Formosan Japanese need US military presence to keep “the Chinese of both banks” on cue.

  • commandergreen

    Japan needs to first strike the Chinese

  • Pumpkin

    The Chinese has NO territorial conflicts with the American. The Chinese were on the side of the American during WW2 when the issue of the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands started. The American never recognises the sovereignty of the Japanese over those islands.
    The Republic of China(ROC), an American allies is also in conflict with the Japanese over the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands. The ROC is also having territorial conflicts over the South China Sea with the Phillipines, Vietnam and Malaysia. This came to blow last year with the killing of a ROC fisherman by the Phillipines. The ROC has also sent ships into the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands.
    Japan also have territorial conflicts with the South Korean and the Russian. Some of the Okinawan still view the Japanese as an occupying force. Some ultranationalist in Japan still consider Korea, Taiwan and Manchuko should be part of Japan. Japan now has build up their Navy to be the world second strongest Navy behind America.
    Asia has been at peace in the last 30 years because of the American presence and the Chinese recognises that. None of the last 3 generations of Chinese leaders have indicated that the American presence is bad. The Chinese needs the American presence especially in Japan to ensure the Japanese do not rise again to threaten another Asian war. They need America to balance the Russian which at many times through history has invaded China and taken territories. The Russian still occupies a large swath of Chinese territories according to some Chinese. The Americans are the only imperial nation which has never invaded China or had any intention of invading China for territorial reason in the past. The Chinese people recognise and appreciate that and hope that the American people ensure that their governments continue to be a benevolent superpower, not like the Spanish, Portugese, Dutch, British, French, German, Japanese or the Russian.

    • William_C_Diaz

      The Chinese government is an evil, soulless beast that would gladly devour its neighbors if it didnt know we would turn it into a molten glass parking lot if they did.

      Please take that ‘We are peaceful people’ crap and tell it to the people of Tibet, Mongolia and Taiwan, who know better.

      We were not allies with China during WWII, those people moved to Taiwan to escape the murder and tyranny of the government currently in China.

      Have a great day!

      • Michael Ng

        NONSENSE!!!

  • tweebo colluns

    Japan? Or Taiwan?

    • William_C_Diaz

      D) All of the Above.

      Have a great day!

  • Axle Jones

    and we continue to support their economy to the utmost degree to bolster theirs and destroy ours. God Bless.

  • Hard Little Machine

    John Kerry’s main concern is the Cohen family in Kiryat Arba asking to build a second bathroom on their house.

  • Costas Swampie

    World economic power/ disruption/ trade ( leading to starvation/ lack of oil/food imports/ banking collapse… ) much more powerful destruction than the A-bomb… China’s stupid muscle flexing will burn connections with other nations; plus treaty-partners will rear their powerful fists to match any illegal activity on the part of the PRC. It will be the Korean War II writ large and China will suffer.

  • ab-704

    Japan, and every other wealthy free nation – like South Korea, Germany, and Taiwan – should develop their own nukes, independent of the US. They should realize that Obama, and most US presidents, would not launch nukes on China to protect them.

  • jodipg82

    With the current Administration wanting to reduce our forces by record lows, I am more concerned that the US may be a target of either China or Russia or a combination of both…we are their biggest threat and they may take the opportunity to get rid of that threat while its’ at its weakest.

  • Joseph Hoffman

    Japan should build nuclear warheads and ICBMs now while they still can; President Obama definitely is not a reliable ally. Once President Obama and Secretary Hagel finish their disarmament program; the US military will be a highly politicized, hollowed out, weak force whose primary purpose will be supression of the American population. The American military presence in the Pacific will only be capable of offering token resistance, similar to the US Asiatic fleet which was mostly destroyed early in World War II.

  • TransplantedTexan

    Russia has militarily occupied and annexed the Crimea with nothing more than a whimper from the Obama Administration. China can certainly see this weakness. So why not neutralize the only other credible power in the region when it know the US will not take any effective action. Then invade and occupy Taiwan. The Obama foreign policy of weakness is coming home to roost in spades…and this is just the beginning; certainly not the end.

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